Front VS Rear mount Turbo Sled showdown at ShootOut Dec 7th

Drag racing, I could make either one work equally well. Trail use, their is no way I would have a rear mount again. That is my opinion. I don't care about the outcome of a shootout in New York. I've done my own comparisons. CPR brand everytime for me! Justin @ Full Power is a great guy,he just needs to bring the turbo to the front of the machine. I personally won't ever have a sled with the turbo in the back again for my trail machine.
 
KnappAttack said:
Drag racing, I could make either one work equally well. Trail use, their is no way I would have a rear mount again. That is my opinion. I don't care about the outcome of a shootout in New York. I've done my own comparisons. CPR brand everytime for me! Justin @ Full Power is a great guy,he just needs to bring the turbo to the front of the machine. I personally won't ever have a sled with the turbo in the back again for my trail machine.
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Let me guess, your rear mount was a bender?
 
The whole shoot out seems to be politically driven or a who is greasing who to get there name in the magazine.

It would have been nice to show up and make a few exhibition passes but where I grew up NO mean NO, Not Oh, Ok at the last minute for a select few.

It all seems pretty fishy to me.
 
I see that there was a 4-stroke showdown after all in the, so called Lakeracer, class in 660ft.

DynoPort - Simons CPR Front Mount - 6.4 at 113 mph.

Full Power Warrior - Rear Mount - 6.6 at 109 mph with the engine breaking up from the 2-step accidentally grabbed during the run.

The fastest in the LakeRacer class was a 2stroke D&D F12 Lake Turbo (rumor NOS) - 5.9 at 123mph

I also now see that a rear mount turbo Attack tied for the fastest run of the day in the Trail Mod class with a D&D 2stroke twin pipe F12 - 8.7 at 112mph 1000ft.

Too bad there couldn't have been a showing from a MCXpress and MPI supercharged sled, others, etc.
More well rounded and diverse.

:4STroke:
 
If the two step engaged on the rear mount, it certainly wouldn't have run a 6.6 @109, it would have just killed the machine. Trail sled's don't run MSD ignitions. The D+D 1200 turbo is a full on race sled @ very high boost levels running 450HP using race fuel, it should go that fast. All set ups being equal, i.e. boost for boost, a CPR front mount will spank any rear mount turbo or supercharger. That is speaking from experience. Notice I said all things being equal. No NOS or ignition to spool turbo tricks. Front mounts are FAR more fun and responsive than a rear mount for trail use. Even if the rear mount would have won the shootout I would say the same thing.
 
Hi mike

Say mike ' i would run ya with your front mount turbo...all that i know is that my full power performance rear mount turbo run's real sweet' and is a trail sled'nothing against front mount's i think its all in the set up and what ya know' P.S.... hope to see ya on the trail some day mike ' have a good one
 
Paraphrasing the two most profound statements of this thread.

1) If I had both sleds and set them both up for maximum performance

2) System knowledge and setup has everything to do with it
 
Say, why is it that Dyno Port / Bender Racing is running a Simons CPR sled anyhow?
 
I'm in the middle of this Shootout trying to be the liason between SnowWeek/ SnowGoer and my many aftermarket pals who desire to showcase their wares in the SW SG publications. Pants down. There was ongoing lobbying this year by the aftermarket guys to run race gas, continue the "Lake Mod" class at the shootout. "Lake Mods" are sort of patterned after the "King of the Trail" dragracing. SW/SG had initially said they wouldnt report these monster sled results.

After many discussions with aftermarket people who were dealing directly with the SnowWeek/SnowGoer people I got a call from Tim Erickson maybe a week before the shootout saying the race gas lake mod sleds could be included in their articles. I immediately posted that info on my weblog. No insider juice there. If you had a race gas lake mod with carbide studs, and you're in business to sell stuff you are welcome.

In order to have this shootout, we need support from a nationally circulated publication. No aftermarket company will pay $500 to demonstrate/ display a sled combination to a few thousand observers. But if it's info published nationally that's a good deal.

Initially this year our magazine partner SnowWeekSnowGoer to brass had issues with potential 150mph sleds blasting down the snow track. But keeping the lakeracers down to 660 ft surely allayed their concerns and unltimately they agreed to the high HP lakeracers. We, and all of those people who were coming to watch knew that, and all were happy.

This shootout is always open to any people making business from hotrodding sleds. Late in the year I have constant communication with those people on what is OK, what can be run, what studs etc and I try to maintain that information on my weblog.

My cel phone number is on my website. I answer it 7 days a week.
 
mike, I heard your old sled was @ D&D test field testing with the shootout sleds. How did it do?
 
FRONT VR REAR

i agree with mike and ted i have all ready ran both type of systems front is the only way to go, first off the best motorcycle turbo shops in usa and canada only build front systems two if we where land speed racing hitting the 1st trap @ the mile marker rear may be fine got a mile to get rid of all the lag terry
 
Thanks for clearing that up, Jim.

By the way, great job on the Shootout... ;)!
 
KnappAttack said:
If the two step engaged on the rear mount, it certainly wouldn't have run a 6.6 @109, it would have just killed the machine. Trail sled's don't run MSD ignitions. The D+D 1200 turbo is a full on race sled @ very high boost levels running 450HP using race fuel, it should go that fast. All set ups being equal, i.e. boost for boost, a CPR front mount will spank any rear mount turbo or supercharger. That is speaking from experience. Notice I said all things being equal. No NOS or ignition to spool turbo tricks. Front mounts are FAR more fun and responsive than a rear mount for trail use. Even if the rear mount would have won the shootout I would say the same thing.
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I agree 100%, there is no comparision for mountain riding either. I have owned both and the difference in the mountains is undeniable.
 
I don't own a front mount, but I have side mount BD system and is much more responsive than the rear mount I had in 2005-2006 on my apex mtn.
 
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