Crewchief47
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The other way to think about this is that $3000 will buy alot of stuff for the Nytro. Skis, and a ZX2 rear suspension that you can take to the next sled, off the top of my head. Just some food for thought.
billey100
Pro
He's farther ahead than you think Crew, he has a ZX2 in his Apex now that he just got last year. So without having to buy that he is halfway to a supercharger!!!! 
wigman1 said:
I want a pair of your glasses!
Crewchief is right a FX Nytro & $3000 is an impressive package!
NB-NYTRO
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
I did some research on the Drag as I'm sled less now. I read in alot of places the Dragon is really hard on fuel. I heard between 12-14mpg hard. I pm'd a few owners on HCS and not many of them are really that impressed. THe Nytro out of the hole is hard to beat. Top end is another stroy. Get a leftover 08 with the updated subframe and you will be rocking.
Vector1
Expert
I think 12-14mpg is on the high side. I hear that they use alot of oil, which must be getting near $10 a quart now.
Swiss Sledder
TY 4 Stroke God
First hand info from a guy on this site that switched to a Poo Dragon last season was that his sled got 10 mpg. He had some good things to say about the sled but the fuel mileage was not one of them.
stoutner
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
It wasn't me at the grass drags. I actually have never been to a grass drags...not even the one in the town where I live. I will go next time they have it though.ride -4-fun said:
I ran my sled at NYIRP twice this year and once at ESTA until I blew it up. Not sure if i'll run my Apex next year or not.
stoutner
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
glmf said:
O.K. I'm 90% sure i'm going with the Nytro at this point. I will definately change the skis and maybe add a little happy juice to it. Beyond that, I really don't want to dick around with it a lot. You are the first guy that I have heard say it is a comfortable riding sled. Maybe everyone thinks that but no one has said it. That is my biggest issue. I want to be riding and enjoying...not fighting it like I did my Apex when i had those crappy stock skis.
I'm not worried about speed and top end. I'm sure it will do everything i need it to do. If I want top end, I'll just throw a shot of nitrous at it and do some clutching. If the sled will truly do 90 mph on GPS (which I know it will), that is plenty fast enough.
Ported Hornet
Expert
Here's my .02. I ride a 07 RTX. I have ridden my buddies 07 Dragon 700, that sled is fast and pulls hard, very close to the Apex on the top. The sled is heavy in the front, probably due to set up but could be set up to rock. I like riding with minimal ski presssure, the Dragon was easier to run throught the trails than my RTX. My take on Polaris is that they are similiar to Yami in 1 respect, there 2 stroke engines are down on power as compared to Doo and Cat but ususally go for a while before needing a top end. The guys I ride with for at least 5-8K before thinking about rebuilding.
I have also spent sometime on a 08 Nytro RTX. I really like the sled, rode very similiar almost identical to my 03.5 Blair Morgan REV. I did not notice any of the ill handling that everyone complains about here, but I am not expecting a sled to handling like a Ferrari either. The sled pulls like a mother down low but falls on its face on the big end and does not keep pulling and pulling like the Apex. I attribute the lack of top end because of the missing gear reduction system on the Nytro. Maybe you could clutch or gear past this point?????
Overall,
I like my Apex and I am going to stay with it, suits my riding style prefect. I would not hesitate to buy a Nytro and I was going to buy one for the wife but she is working way to much to spend 8K for a sled that she will ride twice a year. I can't ever go back to adding oil and worring about the 2 stroke top end POP~!
PH
I have also spent sometime on a 08 Nytro RTX. I really like the sled, rode very similiar almost identical to my 03.5 Blair Morgan REV. I did not notice any of the ill handling that everyone complains about here, but I am not expecting a sled to handling like a Ferrari either. The sled pulls like a mother down low but falls on its face on the big end and does not keep pulling and pulling like the Apex. I attribute the lack of top end because of the missing gear reduction system on the Nytro. Maybe you could clutch or gear past this point?????
Overall,
I like my Apex and I am going to stay with it, suits my riding style prefect. I would not hesitate to buy a Nytro and I was going to buy one for the wife but she is working way to much to spend 8K for a sled that she will ride twice a year. I can't ever go back to adding oil and worring about the 2 stroke top end POP~!
PH
rage man
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
Decent top end at 106 GPS stock w/tall windy. And they take air way better than an Apex!
stoutner
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
Well, I hope I don't get bashed but I went with the '09 Dragon 800. My deal on the "cheap" 08 Nytro fell through so it came down to what sled I felt would fit my needs. prices were all comparable between the Nytro, Dragon, and 800R.
I think each of these sleds has their faults and frankly, I was sick of the few faults the Yamaha had that they refuse to fix at the factory level. Specifically the crappy skis and the sloppy front end steering. The front end heavy feeling does suck but I would deal with it.
I went with the Dragon because I don't think it will have those issues. I do understand that the milage will suck, the 2 smoke oil smells and is expensive, and the motor is not nearly as fun as the 4 stroke. But, I do think it will be a more comfortable fun riding sled that I don't have to "muscle" around all day.
I am going to keep the Nitrous Apex as a spare sled...use it for some lake racing and loan it out to friends without sleds.
I think each of these sleds has their faults and frankly, I was sick of the few faults the Yamaha had that they refuse to fix at the factory level. Specifically the crappy skis and the sloppy front end steering. The front end heavy feeling does suck but I would deal with it.
I went with the Dragon because I don't think it will have those issues. I do understand that the milage will suck, the 2 smoke oil smells and is expensive, and the motor is not nearly as fun as the 4 stroke. But, I do think it will be a more comfortable fun riding sled that I don't have to "muscle" around all day.
I am going to keep the Nitrous Apex as a spare sled...use it for some lake racing and loan it out to friends without sleds.
SledFreak
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I would of went with the XP800R, then the dragon.... It's on it's second year, with alot of things fixed from the 08's. 0-100 setup is tough to beat.
copo427ss
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
stoutner said:
buy some pistons and cylinders now. for as last year they had so many blow up that they were on back order for months. ditch the ridefx air 2/o. they are JUNK. the only way to adjust them is to take them off the sled and add or subtract nitrogen, which means you have to have the bottle and filler needle with regulator. they also have bad inside ski lift. and just dont handle bigger jumps without bottoming out bad on the belly.(most likely do to the front junk 2/0s) oh and they foul plugs out like its they re job. so when you first fire it up. let it run on the trailer for a bit before you put it in reverse or youll cold foul. sorry but i worked at a yamaha/polaris dealership as head tech for two years. good luck. maybe they got their heads out of their asses for 09. but the 08 were nightmares
skyboz
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
If rage man's post with that photo does not encourage you, nothing will! 
