How light can you make a Nytro?

[hugger70mtnmax]

I think you are right about the getting a Pro is you are going for a 600. I did talk to a guy that has a rental business a few weeks ago that has four of them and he has had all of them in a couple times for electrical related engine issues so they may be having issues with them also.

If you are willing to put the money into a few mods on the Nytro one of which being a Skinz front end it is a very good sled that handles well even in bad snow and you don't have to worry about the constant breakage. Stock the sled is not very good but I think it is a great sled to own if you want to do some stuff to it.

 

[AKrider]

Rick,
I'd consider trading for another IQR.

Funny you mention the 600 Pro, I was checking it out on their website last night.

hugger,
I was reading some 2-stroke Polaris threads about the CFI engines and failures and I was back to thinking of Nytro mods. I wouldn't consider an 800 Polaris but the 600 sems better but still a crap shoot compared to the Nytro motor. I guess I like to discover the obvious that I can't have it all. Either go Nytro for reliabilty or a Pro RMK for excellent handling. I've got to keep in mind that a 2-stroke engine failure could potentially cost as much as the Skins front end without shocks.

 

[scmurs]

Rick,
I'd consider trading for another IQR.

Funny you mention the 600 Pro, I was checking it out on their website last night.

hugger,
I was reading some 2-stroke Polaris threads about the CFI engines and failures and I was back to thinking of Nytro mods. I wouldn't consider an 800 Polaris but the 600 sems better but still a crap shoot compared to the Nytro motor. I guess I like to discover the obvious that I can't have it all. Either go Nytro for reliabilty or a Pro RMK for excellent handling. I've got to keep in mind that a 2-stroke engine failure could potentially cost as much as the Skins front end without shocks.

Just drop the Nytro engine in the Pro chassis. Problem solved

Brad Story did it with a propane boosted Apex engine and an IQ chassis.

 

[rlcofmn]

AK Scott, I don't doubt engine electrical problems a bit on the 600's with how many of the 800's have electrical issues. The other thing to think about is from what I have seen on the 800's when they blow, they blow. It's not just a piston it's taking out the whole engine making for a 3k repair.

MN Scott, why don't you see if you can give a guy with my "issues" more ideas

Don't worry, there are already ideas brewing since I have already told myself I will have something other than a Nytro for 2014.

 

[Off Trail Mike]

You guys crack me up. If only I had snow, I could be out there cutting POW instead of LOL.

OTM

 

[rlcofmn]

Speaking of snow, I just fired up the rig to go riding. Only 3:30 here and it's light till 10. Bring on the season of after work riding

 

[AKrider]

Yep, if you have a major engine failure on a 2-stroke you can get to $3000 pretty quick just in parts. A new Polaris 800 crank lists for $1800 here in AK. Over on BCR there is a thread about how they are holding up and one guy said you don't get much of 3000 miles out of the new motors.

http://backcountryrebels.com/showthread.php?t=22277

 

[low slung]

I know the 600 poo motors are more reliable than the 800s but didn,t think the 600CFI motor was also unstable(would figure this motor to be the most bulletproof L/C two-stroke motor out now?)

 

[LuckydawgAK]

AKRider,

Have you ridden a Nytro with the Skinz front end yet? I have it and love it. A buddy of mine and I had the same debate that you are having earlier this year. He ended up with a Pro RMK 800 while I ended up boosting mine (we both had Skinz, Timbersled and CE tracks). Now having seat time on both sleds I am extremely happy that I went with my decision. Stock, I liked the handling enough but boosted with the Skinz and this thing absolutely rocks. The only thing he a can do that I can't is very tight turns and he can "unstick" the sled easier because it is lighter.

I don't think he regrets his decision but he is already talking about a shim and head kit because the one thing he doesn't like is the lack of power....and it really isn't a lack of power until he rode the boosted nytro!

If we can find some descent snow, I'll hook up with you on a ride. You are welcome to test out my sled, it sure is better to get a feel for something before regretting a big purchase. I am in Anchorage. I work until Sunday and have all next week off if you are interested and it works out.

 

[LuckydawgAK]

AKRider,

OK, back to your original post "a small fortune", I do have a bit into this but I bought the sled used for $7K (I'm not as good as Rlocfmn! ). I probably have 14k-15k into it, did it in phases over two years but I think it will last for a good many years.

You could knock several grand off with what a used MTX is going for up here.

 

[AKrider]

I'm down in Valdez but there is a decent chance I'll be at the hillclimb on April 20-21. Riding a Nytro with the Skins front end would tell me a lot. I've flip flopped my thinking on which way to go several times based on the posts I've read here. The good thing is I'm not under pressure for time so I can research what others have done.

I'm really partial to the Nytro's turn the key and go ride ability. With gas prices as high as they are I also like the fuel economy. But, in its present form the sled isn't that fun to ride and the weight causes me to think twice about going into areas that I do on a 2-stroke. We ride off trail all the time on short tracks and the Nytro isn't as capable. My goal would be to make it as capable as a 600 2-stroke mountain sled.

 

[rlcofmn]

I'm down in Valdez but there is a decent chance I'll be at the hillclimb on April 20-21. Riding a Nytro with the Skins front end would tell me a lot. I've flip flopped my thinking on which way to go several times based on the posts I've read here. The good thing is I'm not under pressure for time so I can research what others have done.

I'm really partial to the Nytro's turn the key and go ride ability. With gas prices as high as they are I also like the fuel economy. But, in its present form the sled isn't that fun to ride and the weight causes me to think twice about going into areas that I do on a 2-stroke. We ride off trail all the time on short tracks and the Nytro isn't as capable. My goal would be to make it as capable as a 600 2-stroke mountain sled.

Turbo fixes that problem. It also fixes all handling problems in short track form. It just becomes completely out of control and a blast to ride. 90 percent of the time you will end up out of control way off your desired line. But that other 10 percent you look really cool cause you did the impossible on a 121 Nytro. Also a great feature for the 90 percent failure rate is that you can blame it on your sled and nobody will ever second guess you.

Now that mine is all boring and under control insanity my only excuse for failure is my complete lack of skills.

 

[rlcofmn]

But in all seriousness, it does not take much to make a Nytro hang with 99 percent of 600's and the 1 percent is because of riders. Track, skid, front end you're done. Remember I rode 2 years on a nothing special 144 nytro riding all back country with all 800's. Also having ridden in 5 different states and quite a bit in BC. I have been told many times what I cant do with a 144 or what I cant do with a NA Nytro. But after riding with people I have never heard anything but suprise of what a Nytro actually can do. Caleb's sled is far from stock now but he also started with a stock Nytro and I would guess will agree with everything I have just said.

The Nytro is what you make it to be, it can be a not capable mountain sled or it can be a extremely reliable tough sled that will get you wherever you want to go and tow your buddys 2 strokes back from there.

 

[Super Sled]

I'm sorry guys, but I have to ask: have any of you guys ever rode a Polaris Pro chassis? Yamaha makes nothing that compares in the slightest. The Pro chassis is way superior. Sorry but it's true. The best option is get a Pro with an extended warranty. If it blows then you get a new motor. Try it some time; the Pro rides awesome. The sled feels light and it doesn't fight the rider. It actually responds to the slightest rider input by correspondingly going in the direction it is pushed to go.

 

[rlcofmn]

I'm sorry guys, but I have to ask: have any of you guys ever rode a Polaris Pro chassis? Yamaha makes nothing that compares in the slightest. The Pro chassis is way superior. Sorry but it's true. The best option is get a Pro with an extended warranty. If it blows then you get a new motor. Try it some time; the Pro rides awesome. The sled feels light and it doesn't fight the rider. It actually responds to the slightest rider input by correspondingly going in the direction it is pushed to go.

What do you ride when the pro is in the shop? Any yamaha performs better than a set of snow shoes when your pro is blown up.