Info on the new pilot ski on attak

[fpeverly]

I just bought a pair of the new pilot ski with the single carbide. I'm going to put them on my 2006 yamaha Attak. How will these skiis work and is their anything I should know about the install of these.(I bought the 506151233 stopper)

 

[KnappAttack]

You may want to add the second carbide to eliminate the darting. Single carbides on these sleds make them pretty ill handling.

 

[vmaxcrazy]

I have the 08 single carbide 6.9 pilots on my 06 attak. Just put 180 miles on and all I can say is "WOW" I had no darting in the conditions I was riding in and railed around the corners. I have 6" shapers bars on it w/162 studs in the center belt. I do believe it's the stopper that keeps it from darting as they have the ski tips up when front of sled is in the air. I do believe that in certain conditions they may want to dart. I'll be drilling out the skis to put the out side carbides on just to make sure they won't dart. Skis have set-up for outside carbide, just not drilled out. (probability ski-doo way of reducing weight.) So far they have to be the best add-on to my attak to date.

 

[KnappAttack]

So you put on the mountain 6.9's ? That is good to know because I just installed a set of the 6.9's and have not had a chance to try them yet. 40 degrees here last week and snow is almost gone. I was worried that the wider 6.9 would push more than the 5.7. Glad to here they work good for you. I have 7.5 shapers for mine in middle, and run stock 4" on outside after drilling the outside holes. Bet they float and stay on top of snow better than the 5.7's.

 

[vmaxcrazy]

Yes, I had no pushing in the conditions I was in. Trails were groomed with about 2-4" of loose snow on them from other sleds running on trails. I think the 08 6.9's are not going to be a problem for those of us running on the trails as ski-doo has moved the mounting point to the center of the ski instead of off to one side. We only pick up about 1/2 inch on each side of ski. I also think if you don't put carbides in the outer edge it may were down that area. They act as a rutter to help stabilize the ski to keep the sled from darting. I really can't say enough good about these skis. They've made a unsafe steering into what I believe is one of the best. As a side note, the inside ski lift is a little worst as the out-side ski really bites and lets the inside ski lift. Limiter strap and maybe sway bar adjustment are next on my list of "things to do".

 

[KnappAttack]

Thats good, They are actually 3/4 wider per side over the 5.7's. I am trying to get rid of the push I have using stock skis w/duallys. If your lifting the inside ski that means they are not pushing. Should be able to drive thru corners better then. vmaxcrazy, you could try tightening the limiter, but I would first suggest loosening your front shock springs on the skis. When you tighten the front arm limiter you loose travel on the suspension. In most cases there is slack in the limiter anyway when in a cornering situation. Only when your on the gas will the limiter be tight. Softening the front ski springs and softening the dampening, (on GT models) will lower the front end and still give you all the travel the sled offers while giving a better ride to boot.

 

[vmaxcrazy]

I adjusted the front shock springs last winter. I raised the front end off the ground and loosed adjuster nut untill springs were loose, then tighted adjuster untill springs were not loose. I have limiter strap tighted one hole and think I may go one more. (heard this would help in the deep) The inside ski lift is not a problem as long as you are ready for it. I just lean into corner. However, flatter turning would be nice.

 

[RX1-er-2005]

I installed 13mm sway bar an what a difference in cornering with stock skiis, I was thinking of going with PILOTS, now after reading all of this you may get me to SWITCH!

I also read some good reviews on the SLYDOGS its just that I find them kind of "CHEAP thin and flimsy, and not so sure on durability the keel is some what FRAGILE lite duty, with all the elements we can enconter in a winter...not sure how well they would hold up.

On the other hand the PILOTS seem to hold up pretty well, the down side is the RUNNERS can get pretty EXPENSIVE!!!

 

[SledFreak]

I have the 08 single carbide 6.9 pilots on my 06 attak. Just put 180 miles on and all I can say is "WOW" I had no darting in the conditions I was riding in and railed around the corners. I have 6" shapers bars on it w/162 studs in the center belt. I do believe it's the stopper that keeps it from darting as they have the ski tips up when front of sled is in the air. I do believe that in certain conditions they may want to dart. I'll be drilling out the skis to put the out side carbides on just to make sure they won't dart. Skis have set-up for outside carbide, just not drilled out. (probability ski-doo way of reducing weight.) So far they have to be the best add-on to my attak to date.

What, the 08's have a single carbide for the Pilot. Does'nt that defeat the purpose of them?

 

[Shane]

I have the 08 single carbide 6.9 pilots on my 06 attak. Just put 180 miles on and all I can say is "WOW" I had no darting in the conditions I was riding in and railed around the corners. I have 6" shapers bars on it w/162 studs in the center belt. I do believe it's the stopper that keeps it from darting as they have the ski tips up when front of sled is in the air. I do believe that in certain conditions they may want to dart. I'll be drilling out the skis to put the out side carbides on just to make sure they won't dart. Skis have set-up for outside carbide, just not drilled out. (probability ski-doo way of reducing weight.) So far they have to be the best add-on to my attak to date.

What, the 08's have a single carbide for the Pilot. Does'nt that defeat the purpose of them?

They are marked for the outside runners, but because of the patent dispute they are in, the holes are not drilled.

 

[snoman]

does shaper bar make skegs for pilots ski's ?

 

[gsxr]

Watch the first hard corner with pilots in 6 in of fresh ,
IT WILL NOT TURN !!!

 

[viperyder]

Watch the first hard corner with pilots in 6 in of fresh ,
IT WILL NOT TURN !!!

aperson that isn't a fan???!! gsxr can you explain what u have found?
i'm confused,for it was these ski's or the x2's hearing both are good ski's.i would love to hear from someone who compaired the both of them,but that might be a tall order.

 

[SledFreak]

I have the 08 single carbide 6.9 pilots on my 06 attak. Just put 180 miles on and all I can say is "WOW" I had no darting in the conditions I was riding in and railed around the corners. I have 6" shapers bars on it w/162 studs in the center belt. I do believe it's the stopper that keeps it from darting as they have the ski tips up when front of sled is in the air. I do believe that in certain conditions they may want to dart. I'll be drilling out the skis to put the out side carbides on just to make sure they won't dart. Skis have set-up for outside carbide, just not drilled out. (probability ski-doo way of reducing weight.) So far they have to be the best add-on to my attak to date.

What, the 08's have a single carbide for the Pilot. Does'nt that defeat the purpose of them?

They are marked for the outside runners, but because of the patent dispute they are in, the holes are not drilled.

I thought they only had a dispute because of the Precisions, now the Pilots (WTF).... With who?

 

[AXR]

im going to have to guess you got the wrong piolets if you check the skidoo site you will see 2 kinds, one of them states it only uses 1 center carbide and the other uses 2. i dont remember the exact names but i think the ones that had the single carbides were for like snow-X