Is extending my sled worth it?

[2008 Nytro RTX]

I was thinking going either 136 or 144,I ride mostly rough and groomed trails. Very rarely is it deep snow

 

[**sj**]

question is ,,,percentage of straights to twisties....if mostly twisties ...you will not turn as tight...if mostly straights...you will like the added stability if doen right..id go for an xtx style extension if u decide to go longer

 

[sleddingfarmer]

If you don't do any off trail riding, I would say its not worth it.

I didn't notice any negatives to going to a 136, I felt that it handle basically the same in the tight trails. I did notice the back end of the sled would slide out easier, especially while braking hard, because of the different track (Cobra). The ripsaw has pretty good sideways traction.

Positives I noticed were off trail, or in really loose snow it worked way better, I got stuck way less. But some of those positives could also be because I got rid of the ripsaw track and switched to a Cobra when I went to a 136". Ripsaw just sucks in the powder IMO.

Quicker acceleration or better braking... I dunno if it was any better or worse (besides the sideways thing).

For strictly trail riding, I don't see going to a 144 tipped up rail set up to be any benefit. I mean, aren't the tipped up rails designed to handle like a 121 on the trails anyways? I've never ridden one, so maybe I'm wrong.

So what are you trying to gain?

Maybe you just need more power...

 

[**sj**]

farmer most of what youre describing is attributed to the difference between the ripsaw and cobra...the ripsaw rotates poorest of all IMHO so even going longer with the cobra left you feeling the same...interesting...

the xtx skid is the most efficient of the nytro skids....

 

[ralger]

I haver the 136" tip up extensions and Cobra track; not much different on the trails wirth the tip up extensions; but can actually go off trail without getting stuck. Again, might be because of the Cobra, but more floatation helps too. BTW - I ride trails 99% of the time and think it was worth it. Not to mention the sled looks way better.

 

[sleddingfarmer]

Yeah, the cobra is way better in loose snow than the ripsaw. But its a soft track, its not gonna last too long with very aggressive riding on poor trails, at least not with me driving it won't.

Maybe what the OP should do is switch the ripsaw with a 1.375" arctic cat track, and throw a pile of 1.45" studs or 1.5" studs in it. Then put a header pipe on to make up for the added weight.

Thats what I would do if I did it over again, but I'd still go 136, cause I like to play off trail as much as possible.

 

[Alatalo]

I went 136" tipped up with my -09 RTX SE.
Only positives, no negatives, will likely never own a 121" again.

 

[dirkdiggler]

I had a 136 and Hated it!!! First 136 i didn't like. I think it's the seating position on the Nytro that made it that way. The Nytro isn't the best corner to corner sled because it's got a high center of gravity. the 136 doesn't help that at all.

 

[SledFreak]

Yeah, the cobra is way better in loose snow than the ripsaw. But its a soft track, its not gonna last too long with very aggressive riding on poor trails, at least not with me driving it won't.

Maybe what the OP should do is switch the ripsaw with a 1.375" arctic cat track, and throw a pile of 1.45" studs or 1.5" studs in it. Then put a header pipe on to make up for the added weight.

Thats what I would do if I did it over again, but I'd still go 136, cause I like to play off trail as much as possible.

I'm Not sure why you think the Cobra is not durable. The 2 ply fully clipped is a pretty good track. The 1 ply that Cat put on there sleds were junk, but the 2 ply fully clipped Cobra is pretty good. My buddy put 3000 hard miles on his D&D stage 2 ported F1000 @195hp with 171 1.450 studs and it's still looked mint and he drives the F)(&*^ out of it. We race pretty much everytime we go out....

 

[SledFreak]

I was thinking going either 136 or 144,I ride mostly rough and groomed trails. Very rarely is it deep snow

Unless you buy tipped up 136 or 144 @the 121" mark, then I would go with a 128" NON-tipup, 2 ply Fully Clipped Cobra Track. I think that is a good balance for traction and handling or sell i and buy an XTX and put a Cobra track on it...

 

[Stoli]

Between 07 and 08 I went from a 121 to 144 and was a 95% trail rider at the time. I swore I would never go back. The biggest thing i noticed was how much better it took rough trails with no sacrifice in handling on nicely groomed trails. With no change to the suspension - it sucked up rough trails, didnt bottom out when hitting moguls due to heavy traffic. I did not notice one once of difference in corning, but the traction was night and day different. More bite/acceleration with the tip up as it lifts the front - you're gonna catch more track. I also did some off trail that same season and was amazed what it went through compared to when it was a 121. I would vote extending it if there was a vote going on. I had nothing but positive experiences with the longer track on trails.

 

[sleddingfarmer]

Yeah, the cobra is way better in loose snow than the ripsaw. But its a soft track, its not gonna last too long with very aggressive riding on poor trails, at least not with me driving it won't.

Maybe what the OP should do is switch the ripsaw with a 1.375" arctic cat track, and throw a pile of 1.45" studs or 1.5" studs in it. Then put a header pipe on to make up for the added weight.

Thats what I would do if I did it over again, but I'd still go 136, cause I like to play off trail as much as possible.

I'm Not sure why you think the Cobra is not durable. The 2 ply fully clipped is a pretty good track. The 1 ply that Cat put on there sleds were junk, but the 2 ply fully clipped Cobra is pretty good. My buddy put 3000 hard miles on his D&D stage 2 ported F1000 @195hp with 171 1.450 studs and it's still looked mint and he drives the F)(&*^ out of it. We race pretty much everytime we go out....

I didn't have hardly any miles on mine and I had a couple studs pulled through, and lugs on the side were ripped. Just ripped them in half vertically...didn't rip them off the track. I had the same miles on the ripsaw and it looked like new still. But time will tell how durable it is. We have some pretty nasty trails around here, dirt, rock, roots, corn fields, chisel plowed fields...and we don't slow down. So that might have something to do with it. But comparing to the other tracks I've ran, I don't see it lasting as long.

If you like it, thats great, But I'm going to avoid it if I can. Unless it lasts several thousand miles on my old nytro... like 5,000.

 

[mytro]

I have my 136" Kit bought but no track yet, I'd love to hear some more feedback.

Thanks the help so far!!

 

[sleddingfarmer]

Was just looking on tracks usa. I wonder why they don't have a 136" predator with 1.25" lugs... I know they used to make them, cause I own one. According to the camoplast website they only make it in 121" with 1" lugs lol.

I've never heard a review of the "crossover" 1.5" track either. That looks like a pretty mean track, but also looks like the lugs would rip off kinda easily. No 136" length either...

 

[**sj**]

the predators name is now the "carve" I believe!