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Lowering phazer to get better cornering?

DigitalFusion

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I tried the site search, as well as a google search of the site, but didnt come up with anything...

On the apex and RX-1, if you want it to rail through the corners you adjust the front shocks so the a-arms are basically parallel with the ground. I havent seen or found this suggestion for the phazer. Is there a reason why?
 

Can't help much but I do have info from another site that mentioned backing off the ski spring preload to the lowest setting which helps prevent the unpredictable cornering.

From all the sleds I've driven, the Pazer seems to react the most to shifting your weight forward and into the corner. I was playing with this Sunday during some high speed cornering (OK don't laugh too hard, I mean fast for a Phazer). I couldn't believe how smooth the cornering was compared to how much ski-lift I would get just by moving back a few inches.

What also helped is that I had dropped the rear track spring to the "S" (soft) setting which allowed the rear of the track to skid a little in the corner. I've always like the predictability of knowing when the rear would break loose more that having a planted rear end that would suddenly grab in a corner causing the sled to tip on it's side.
 
Well the phazer being designed as a stand up mountain sled, groomer trails wont be friendly to it! Lots of sway bar options to help roll. But body language is going to do the most for your handling.
I wonder how my phazer 153"x2.5"x14.5" track with narrow ski stance, all bogies inboard, and no sway bar would handle on high speed corners. Oh wait no I dont:)
 
I agree with these guys.There just is not the same weight in the front like a Apex or even a Nytro.This makes trying to get your a-arms flat at rest near impossible and counteractive since soft spring required makes it worse.Best mod on Phazer for handling in corners is a good set of skiis and putting the skispacers to the outside which makes your sled wider.

Something to look forward to is I bought a set of the JRE spindles intended for Nytro RTX.They lower front by 2 inches but you also need to lower the entire rear susp same.I havent figured out how to do that yet.Work in process but promising.If it cant be done it wont be a big bother though since I have gotten used to my handling.
 
I've got the GT arms on my MTX and retained the the 15.5" MTX length shock and it sits a good 1.5" lower up front then other phazers I've been around. I've though about relaxing the springs more (adjustable Ohlins) but currently If I nail a big bump wrong I can feel my Skid plate touch down as the shocks bottom. It corners quite well and I have the GT sway bar on the weakest setting which gives me very predictable ski lift. I also run the limiter strap in the 2nd to shortest position so it takes quite a bit of throttle to lift the inside ski. Setup like this it rails about as good as a Phazer can rail since it really isn't a rail sled. When I'm going to play out in the woods/swamps I let the limiter strap all the was out so it wheelies with the slightest bit of throttle and becomes a great boondocker again (but tipsy on the trails). Tightening up the limiter strap is probably the easiest way to keep the ski lift down in corners.
 
That is great. Don't let anyone bad mouth the phaz either, some of the most fun in my opinion to have on the snow.
 
I found that entering a corner and keeping the throttle even has given me some great cornering. Give it a try in a corner in a field or something.

I have sometimes had my phazer ride a corner like it was tied down and sometimes take a corner much slower and lifted the ski. I think I figured it out thouh.

Letting off or giving gas mid corner has caused me some inside ski lift. That being said I find the ski lift fairly predictable.

Looking foreward to hearing about those spindles Cannondale.
 


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