Missing the Point of 4 Strokes?

[4Fighter]

Jumping into a 4-stroke Yamaha when I did has been a valuable life-lesson learned about snowmobiles.

I have had to "fix" my RX-1 to the point where it has fixed me right out of any chance to buy a new Yamaha to ease the burden of mod-itis. That and the depreciation factor is simply NOT worth spring ordering or buying pre-season.

IMHO: Snowmobiles will never be worth their MSRP.

 

[NOS-PRO]

Indy, like I said once before,...........You have your sled set up for you, and with all the goodies that a new sled has.

I think if your 03 had the stock suspension, and without the add-ons, I think you might have made the switch. But this is your sled, and it is your option on what to do with it as you please.

Take care, buddy!

 

[RX-Eskimo]

I have to get the most of the ones I have as well, as long as the chassis lasts, then that is how long I use it...I finally gave up on the 1992.

Will buy a phazer or attak for this summer's sealift. Otherwise, I love my RX-1 03 like others have stated, and its quirks.

Last year, it was the boat's turn for the new Yamaha...150 FI 4 stroke. This year is the trial period like 2003MY, so phazer for me I think. I will send my quirks notes to Yamaha if I find them, nothing like being a test pilot for my favourite motor company.

RX-E

 

[welterracer]

I agree with nospro

Take out that M-10 and put the old skid back in.. then go ride a apex or attack..

You would switch soo fast your head would spin

Did you ever look at that HUGE list of stuff you did to your sled to make it as good as a apex is stock

I too had a 04 warrior the last two seasons.. Added skis, foam to the seat, clutching, 13mm swaybar, temp gauge ETC ETC... and it still wasnt as good in its modded form as the My apex gt was STOCK!!

When i buy a sled i dont want to have to mod it to hell.. i want to ride it and brag about how great it was and i didnt have to do anything to it..

the rx-1 gets better gas milage than the apex but thats about it as far as what the rx does better..

 

[BLUEDOG]

New sleds

I enjoy new toys from year to year and I'll be getting rid of my sons SRX for a new Phazer, and I might upgrade my Apex to the Attak, other than that I'll keep those 2 for 3 more years and 05 RX-1 and my wifes 05 Vector wil be around till the YES runs out on them. My main reason to update/upgrade is that I drive 10 hours each way 5 to 6 times a winter, leaving my sleds in Hurley till the last trip up, so I have very little time to wrench on them or to sit around a dealer waiting for a fix. Until the 05 RX-1 I wasn't too impressed the product, my 03 RX-1 rode like a turd and the 04 Warrior had too much push for me so that's how I got to where I am today, sled wise!

Be good,

Indy, how are the little ones doing?

Dog

 

[impalapower]

Re: New sleds

Be good,

Maybe you should be good for once. Troublemaker.

 

[Indy]

Terry and Welt,

I agree with your responses, but thats my point. Take an older RX and thow on a better skid and skis, and then you have an Apex or Attak. With what used Rx's are getting for trade in, why trade?

You have to agree that you would rather have a RX that will last 1000's and 1000's of miles compared to a used Rev or any 2 stroke for the same $4k. The used value of these sleds is very un fair. Value wise, it doesn't make since to trade. If I had a 2stroke with 4500 miles, I'd be shopping. And I sure as hell wouldn't be spending the money I have to mod a 2 stroke. That is my point, why trade sleds when you have a 4 stroke? Just MOD it. It will last for many, many years, compared to a 2 stroke. Instead of another 10K for a new sled, how about 2k for some mods?

 

[Indy]

Re: New sleds

Indy, how are the little ones doing?

Dog

Dog,

Kids are great, thanks for asking.

Dan

 

[NOS-PRO]

Indy, yes, exactly my thoughts.

I went with the 05 RX1 cause I was still stock. I got the Attak, cause for me the fuel injection will make it more consistant in drag racing. Plus the 136 was a plus.

 

[QCRider]

I agree with nospro

Take out that M-10 and put the old skid back in.. then go ride a apex or attack..

You would switch soo fast your head would spin

Did you ever look at that HUGE list of stuff you did to your sled to make it as good as a apex is stock

I too had a 04 warrior the last two seasons.. Added skis, foam to the seat, clutching, 13mm swaybar, temp gauge ETC ETC... and it still wasnt as good in its modded form as the My apex gt was STOCK!!

When i buy a sled i dont want to have to mod it to hell.. i want to ride it and brag about how great it was and i didnt have to do anything to it..

the rx-1 gets better gas milage than the apex but thats about it as far as what the rx does better..

That's not true of everyone. My Dad has an '03 that he loves. He added straight rate springs and the longer sway bar blocks, that's it. Oh, I forgot, just this year he switched to Doo precision skis too.

 

[BA APEX]

really . . . why? Its a 4 stroke, and its a Yammie, it will last 4 ever. I wouldn't take a new Apex or Attack for it.

I wouldn't own a RX/warrior. Apex/Attack has totally diff feel & look. just my opinion.

 

[hondo]

Indy,

To chime in here, concur with your points.

This is one reason why I'm going to get 25,000 miles out of my 05 RS Venture.

Currently am about 400 miles shy of 12,000 miles on the sled. As advertised, the motor should easily go 25,000 miles before the valves need to be checked.

I put precision skis on it, it steers like a champ in a variety of snow conditions, have tweaked the suspension for both two up, and solo cruising, have a Kimpex/ Polaris wheel kit on it that reduces the track howl and extends hyfax wear to the point that I have over 10,000 miles on a set of Hyfax and still going strong.

My question to Yamaha is why can't Yamaha produce a "total package" sled to begin with?

I do see both sides, many feel that by trading every couple of years they can do better value wise at trade in.

I do feel many don't realize how durable these sleds really are.

Many just get tired of the same old thing so they have to have the latest and greatest machine that is produced.

These 4 strokes are not like "dissposable" two-strokes. If one does proper maintenance, and takes care of the chassis, the machine will easily last 5-7 years, if not longer.

I personnaly see more value in running the sled longer. Just the way we are because we don't have to keep up with the family next door.

Plus, I am using the Venture as my own personal endurance test bed and documenting all the sleds requirements!

There a lot of Yamaha sleds out there with a lot of life left.

Guess this is why they call this country America.

My contribution to the thread.

 

[welterracer]

I agree with nospro

Take out that M-10 and put the old skid back in.. then go ride a apex or attack..

You would switch soo fast your head would spin

Did you ever look at that HUGE list of stuff you did to your sled to make it as good as a apex is stock

I too had a 04 warrior the last two seasons.. Added skis, foam to the seat, clutching, 13mm swaybar, temp gauge ETC ETC... and it still wasnt as good in its modded form as the My apex gt was STOCK!!

When i buy a sled i dont want to have to mod it to hell.. i want to ride it and brag about how great it was and i didnt have to do anything to it..

the rx-1 gets better gas milage than the apex but thats about it as far as what the rx does better..

That's not true of everyone. My Dad has an '03 that he loves. He added straight rate springs and the longer sway bar blocks, that's it. Oh, I forgot, just this year he switched to Doo precision skis too.

The 03 and 04 rx-1s ride nothing like the apex or attack.. REAR SKID SUCKS

 

[QCRider]

The 03 and 04 rx-1s ride nothing like the apex or attack.. REAR SKID SUCKS

Depends where you ride. See my Avatar? You can ride that stuff with NO suspension. That's where we ride and what the trails are like.

 

[NY_Nytro]

I do the same with my autos. Nothing wrong with my current vehicle just want something new after a few years.