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question for ya number-does it have ski lift when exiting a corner or all the way through the corner?
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all the way through most of the time i am thinking that its only when i let off so i think i just have to make an adjustment ot my thumb but im gonna make some other adjustments!
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ya defent have to adjust the transfer rods for som ski pressure
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Lower your front end,build a plate that attaches to your lower a arm and lowers your shock by 1" all your handling issues will be solved,why dident yamaha think of this????number1kyster said:I have an 05 vector that has never handled very well. Last season i added C and A skis thinking it would improve my ski lift problem. They made the problem much worse. After talking to a my buddy who is a cat mechanic he suggested that i bring up the limiter strap a couple holes. I did this and it helped but it was still bad. This spring i took off the C and A's and put my stock sti's back on in hopes that with the added ski pressure my sled will handle better. Can you guys help me out? Do i need a 12mm stabilizer bar or do my shocks need to be revalved? Any info is helpful.
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number1kyster, a stiffer sway bar may help as suggested earlier. Stock sled comes with a 11mm bar. You can upgrade to 12mm and 13mm. There are lots of good threads on sway bars and their results. The thicker the bar, the flatter it will corner but it will ride more harsh.
My advice to you right now is to research your options first and then try one change at a time once the snow conditions allow you to test out the sled. Otherwise you are going to make a bunch of changes and not understand how each one affects your sled's performance.
My advice to you right now is to research your options first and then try one change at a time once the snow conditions allow you to test out the sled. Otherwise you are going to make a bunch of changes and not understand how each one affects your sled's performance.
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Swiss Sledder said:number1kyster, a stiffer sway bar may help as suggested earlier. Stock sled comes with a 11mm bar. You can upgrade to 12mm and 13mm. There are lots of good threads on sway bars and their results. The thicker the bar, the flatter it will corner but it will ride more harsh.
My advice to you right now is to research your options first and then try one change at a time once the snow conditions allow you to test out the sled. Otherwise you are going to make a bunch of changes and not understand how each one affects your sled's performance.
THis sled needs stiffer ski springs before it needs a bigger swaybar...IMHO.
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so did any of these suggestions help
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we will find out when the snow flies...
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The Nytro center spring I installed made the ride worse.Every little jiggler rattled the sled and made long rides tiresome.
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We make a sway bar kit that should help out your handling problem.
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We make a sway bar kit that should help out your handling problem.
-Bruce
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Litre1000 said:The Nytro center spring I installed made the ride worse.Every little jiggler rattled the sled and made long rides tiresome.
I said "ski springs"...not the center shock spring. The center shock is valved too soft, and put on a variable rate spring there....HUGE improvment when coupled with the Nytro rear clicker shock that was revalved softer.
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Who makes it and where did you get it (and how much).
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Nice thread! A bunch of great advice.
But Swiss Sledder with his first post touched on something that is most important especially with the 3 cylinder 120 motor.
Every driving school will teach you smoothness and weight transfer.
Unlike a car that has a suspension point in every corner you have to think of a sled as a backwards tricycle, or inverted triangle.
2 strokes gave you smoothness coming out of a corner especially the tripples, So you are probably used to banging the throttle open.
No power down low so it sort of spooled up gently over a second or so edging up to the narrower high RPM powerband
Not so with the 4 strokes, especially the vector!
That 3 cylinder has huge ballz and a big wallop even down at low RPMs!
Peg the throttle before you are out of the corner and you get a jolt that upsets the balance of the triangle. Squeezing the throttle open slowly will help you add the smoothness to keep the balance in tact. Two strokes gave you that automatically.
A clue to decel ski lift. If it feels like the outside ski spring is collapsing, then spring rate could be the issue if it feels like it is collapsing a lot. But a stiffer anti roll bar does in effect act like a bigger spring just not as strongly.
Another thing, if you arent bottoming out, try reducing the ride height of the machine for a lower center of gravity
But Swiss Sledder with his first post touched on something that is most important especially with the 3 cylinder 120 motor.
Every driving school will teach you smoothness and weight transfer.
Unlike a car that has a suspension point in every corner you have to think of a sled as a backwards tricycle, or inverted triangle.
2 strokes gave you smoothness coming out of a corner especially the tripples, So you are probably used to banging the throttle open.
No power down low so it sort of spooled up gently over a second or so edging up to the narrower high RPM powerband
Not so with the 4 strokes, especially the vector!
That 3 cylinder has huge ballz and a big wallop even down at low RPMs!
Peg the throttle before you are out of the corner and you get a jolt that upsets the balance of the triangle. Squeezing the throttle open slowly will help you add the smoothness to keep the balance in tact. Two strokes gave you that automatically.
A clue to decel ski lift. If it feels like the outside ski spring is collapsing, then spring rate could be the issue if it feels like it is collapsing a lot. But a stiffer anti roll bar does in effect act like a bigger spring just not as strongly.
Another thing, if you arent bottoming out, try reducing the ride height of the machine for a lower center of gravity
homer2210
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I had the same problem last year when I got my Nytro, the easy fix is - transfer rods, adjust these and your ride will be much better.
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