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Need longer snow flap.. Any factory options?

Revitup600

Revitup600

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River falls, wi
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2018 Sidewinder ltx le 50th
Out riding on a 4 day trip and sled is getting hot. Trails are great with plenty of snow. But it’s real crystally, sugar type snow, no fine dust.- Track is kicking a ton of stuff up- but it all going under the flap versus up and in.

I’m 180 without gear- skid on full soft-
Swapped sleds with my buddy who is bigger than me, and temps dropped right to where they should. Anyone have pics if they’ve done a permanent or temp fix? This am I’ll stop at hardware store and find something to temporarily extend it-

I cannot be only one having this issue
 

I don't think Cat offers different length flaps like Doo does Josh. Only option is to extend the factory flap like you are doing.

I'm surprised more people are not seeing this as well. Perhaps they will now as the trails ice up and such. I see people talking about overheating now and again, but don't think they realize the flap is just too far off the ground and not catching snow and tossing it up into the tunnel.

We pay attention to the hows and whys and try and find a solution to the problem, most people don't unless their engineer types.
 
KnappAttack said:
I don't think Cat offers different length flaps like Doo does Josh. Only option is to extend the factory flap like you are doing.

I'm surprised more people are not seeing this as well. Perhaps they will now as the trails ice up and such. I see people talking about overheating now and again, but don't think they realize the flap is just too far off the ground and not catching snow and tossing it up into the tunnel.

We pay attention to the hows and whys and try and find a solution to the problem, most people don't unless their engineer types.
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Mike my Wife was having over heating problems on her 2016 1200 Renegade X a couple years ago. I noticed that she was too light to compress the rear springs and her flap was too high. I installed lighter torsion springs on her sled the following year and it made a big difference. Now her sled will squat when she gets on it and the flap is much closer to the ground.
 
XP123 said:
Mike my Wife was having over heating problems on her 2016 1200 Renegade X a couple years ago. I noticed that she was too light to compress the rear springs and her flap was too high. I installed lighter torsion springs on her sled the following year and it made a big difference. Now her sled will squat when she gets on it and the flap is much closer to the ground.
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Right, we found this way back with the Doos, I like the flap dragging on the ground for that very reason.

Josh called me yesterday and I knew he had went too "two" on all his shock and spring settings. First thing I told him to do was go back to one on everything and it helped a ton. Went from 200's down to 190's with him on it, told him to put his bud on it who was heavier and temps dropped to the normal 170. So today, Josh has bolted on some auto mudflaps on to try and grab that snow that would otherwise just be thrown out the back. There crooked as its just a trail side fix, but it will work for now.

I was wondering how that flap that high was going to work. It does in most conditions when snow is fine and blowing around, but knew it was just a matter of time and the right conditions it would be too short for cooling properly. Nothing a piece of rubber belting extension bolted to the flap can't fix. Needs another 3-4" of length there is all. Anything to get it closer to the ground helps!
 
I talked about this last fall....Def would like to have a better flap option, especially something that opens up the bumper for lifting ect.....stock design is poor at best.

PDP is the only ones I was looking hard at, they look decent too. But still not long enough or with enough curve.

Adding the tunnel flares does help alot with snowdust i find, so that is one easy mod that we can add.

I though about buying a DOO flap, and using the bottom curved section....adding that to the stocker to lengthen it. Cost is rather high from BRP. So I started looking at the PDP ones as they are priced really fare.

http://www.provendesignproducts.com/Pages/Snowflap Logo/snowflap_logo_arcticcat_procross.html


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This is what I did for a longer snow flap.
Proven design products.
When sled is sitting on the ground the snow flaps just touches the ground.
My sled has a 1.75 track on it so it throws alot of snow.
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Revitup600 said:
Out riding on a 4 day trip and sled is getting hot. Trails are great with plenty of snow. But it’s real crystally, sugar type snow, no fine dust.- Track is kicking a ton of stuff up- but it all going under the flap versus up and in.

I’m 180 without gear- skid on full soft-
Swapped sleds with my buddy who is bigger than me, and temps dropped right to where they should. Anyone have pics if they’ve done a permanent or temp fix? This am I’ll stop at hardware store and find something to temporarily extend it-

I cannot be only one having this issue
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Root of the issue appears to be suspension is too stiff for lighter riders. If lighter riders can get the correct sit in, then the snow flap drops and the problem is solved.

Here's my solution to softening up suspension for lighter riders. It's a 2 for 1 deal....improve ride quality and eliminate overheating!

https://ty4stroke.com/threads/barn-of-parts-torsion-spring-block-relocate.151531/
 
Fortunately (or unfortunately depending on what aspect you look at), us fat guys don't have this problem. Lol
My buddy has one like the PDP above. The riders behind him appreciate it too. He was known as the rototiller before he installed it. :jump:
 
hibshman25 said:
Root of the issue appears to be suspension is too stiff for lighter riders. If lighter riders can get the correct sit in, then the snow flap drops and the problem is solved.

Here's my solution to softening up suspension for lighter riders. It's a 2 for 1 deal....improve ride quality and eliminate overheating!

https://ty4stroke.com/threads/barn-of-parts-torsion-spring-block-relocate.151531/
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Not in this case,
Josh is a fast, hard charger, he had his rear springs on 2 and also upped the compression dampening to 2 to keep from crashing thru the travel.
When he called me and told me the issue, I knew right away what the problem was. He took my advice and set everything back on on 1 just to lower the back end somewhat and grab some snow off the flap to be able to get into town and get an extension put on the flap.

If he runs the suspension down on 1 he blows thru the travel and bottoms far too easily now. It just needs a longer flap in this case and he needs to get his suspension set back up where he wants it set.
 
Revitup600 said:
Out riding on a 4 day trip and sled is getting hot. Trails are great with plenty of snow. But it’s real crystally, sugar type snow, no fine dust.- Track is kicking a ton of stuff up- but it all going under the flap versus up and in.

I’m 180 without gear- skid on full soft-
Swapped sleds with my buddy who is bigger than me, and temps dropped right to where they should. Anyone have pics if they’ve done a permanent or temp fix? This am I’ll stop at hardware store and find something to temporarily extend it-

I cannot be only one having this issue
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I know what your going through! I had the exact same situation last year on my big 2000km trip. The sled overheated like 5 times a day, really but a damper into the trip constantly having to stop or look for loose snow, staring at the heat gauge the entire trip. I was also throwing a ton of snow and it was all going under the snow flap. This year I will be running ice scratchers on the skis but who knows if that will even help. Last year I also adjusted all my suspension to the softest settings. It made a little difference but still had a lot of issues.
 
Snowaddict said:
Fortunately (or unfortunately depending on what aspect you look at), us fat guys don't have this problem. Lol
My buddy has one like the PDP above. The riders behind him appreciate it too. He was known as the rototiller before he installed it. :jump:
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I resemble that remark. LOL.

Ya I never struggle with my flap being to high.
 
a friend of mine ha a 2014 polaris RMK. last week on the trails we had lots of loose snow and my sidewinder ran normal temps. His RMK with a 2.5 track heated up to over 200F. He lowered the ice scratchers and that resolved his issues.

2 things-
1)I thought there was tons of snow for him and couldn't believe he overheated.
2) I cant believe how well the ice scratchers worked and resolved his issues.
 
After trails loosened up a bit from some other sleds hitting them I was no longer having issues- first 200 miles we never saw another sled and trails were crunchy and I was def struggling- had to have my buddy ride mine down the rail grade as he’s a bigger dude. Definitely will be installing ski scratchers (as I’m sure I will encounter these condtions again someday). And when trails are that hard the carbides bite so hard they don’t even scrape any snow up when cornering to help with cooling- And regarding tuners on hard trails- THEY SUCK- I was suppose to have snowtrackers and doo skis on prior to trip but Kimpex messed up and sent 1 wrong carbide with the kit.
 
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