New M9 yamaha ski

[fergdog93]

Did you see that Curve ind. now has a "leading edge" dartless plate for their "dartless" skiis. Why would you need such a plate on a ski that was designed not to dart in the first place?
I guess I understand the logic, the other day I bought a new camo jacket for hunting. I got it home and promptly covered the whole jacket in camo duct tape.
One thing I can say about those "dartless" skiis is, that I have never tried a ski that is that predictable! In my experience they work exactly the same in any snow condition....poorly.
I am looking forward to trying the new yamaha ski. Hopefully it will perform somewhere close to slp's powder pro. I love the pp skiis!

Did you happen to read the whole thread on "The leading edge"? this product is for use on rock hard icy conditions, where there is very little or no snow. All this product does is help aid the runners in these conditions. I'm having a hard time figuring out why you would bash there ideas, I for one think its nice to see someone push the envelope and be inovative. all Curve is doing is making a good product better, and striving to be the best.

I am sorry if you think my opinion is bashing. "Pushing the envelope and or being innovative" in my mind, would have to been, producing a ski that performs as advertised. I think it is sad that people have spent $500 on a set of skiis to improve the handling and darting of a sled, only to have to spend another $80 to make the ski do the same thing a stock yamaha ski does with dartless or pipe mod done to it. I call a spade a spade. If they work for you, great! But I have yet to see anyone in person who thinks any different than what I have found. I'll stick to my powder pros or the junk yamaha skiis.

The Curve XS skis do work very well compared to OEM ski's. If you have never seen in person that they are an improvment, then obviously you don't know how to set up a sled. Also, "the leading edge" is not a must have for the Curve ski's, but an OPTIONAL add-on FOR ROCK HARD ICEY CONDITIONS.

 

[TechMaples]

Did you see that Curve ind. now has a "leading edge" dartless plate for their "dartless" skiis. Why would you need such a plate on a ski that was designed not to dart in the first place?
I guess I understand the logic, the other day I bought a new camo jacket for hunting. I got it home and promptly covered the whole jacket in camo duct tape.
One thing I can say about those "dartless" skiis is, that I have never tried a ski that is that predictable! In my experience they work exactly the same in any snow condition....poorly.
I am looking forward to trying the new yamaha ski. Hopefully it will perform somewhere close to slp's powder pro. I love the pp skiis!

Did you happen to read the whole thread on "The leading edge"? this product is for use on rock hard icy conditions, where there is very little or no snow. All this product does is help aid the runners in these conditions. I'm having a hard time figuring out why you would bash there ideas, I for one think its nice to see someone push the envelope and be inovative. all Curve is doing is making a good product better, and striving to be the best.

I am sorry if you think my opinion is bashing. "Pushing the envelope and or being innovative" in my mind, would have to been, producing a ski that performs as advertised. I think it is sad that people have spent $500 on a set of skiis to improve the handling and darting of a sled, only to have to spend another $80 to make the ski do the same thing a stock yamaha ski does with dartless or pipe mod done to it. I call a spade a spade. If they work for you, great! But I have yet to see anyone in person who thinks any different than what I have found. I'll stick to my powder pros or the junk yamaha skiis.

The Curve XS skis do work very well compared to OEM ski's. If you have never seen in person that they are an improvment, then obviously you don't know how to set up a sled. Also, "the leading edge" is not a must have for the Curve ski's, but an OPTIONAL add-on FOR ROCK HARD ICEY CONDITIONS.

Like I said before, if they work for you, than great. But please do not insult me or my ability to properly set up a sled. I am a 5 star and YTA certified Yamaha Service manager and Tech. I have set up literally hundreds of sleds, amazingly enough, most all with the "junk" yamaha skiis. With a little modification and proper set up, the stock yammie ski works as good or better than most aftermarket skiis on packed/ groomed trail. I have tried the curve skiis in various conditions, and never got any result worth spending $500 for. As far as an aftermarket "trail" ski goes, I believe the kimpex arrow to be the best. If you like to play off trail along with trail ride, the Powder Pro is the way to go.
By the way, I am not the only one who feels this way about the curve skiis. But I guess if you are a TY advertiser, almost every post that has anything that could be construed as negative about your product, true or not, a lot of the time gets deleted. I am not trying to bash, I just think all opinions (posts), good or bad, from members about advertizers' product should have the right to be heard without the fear of being deleted.

 

[NY AttakGT]

Like I said before, if they work for you, than great. But please do not insult me or my ability to properly set up a sled. I am a 5 star and YTA certified Yamaha Service manager and Tech. I have set up literally hundreds of sleds, amazingly enough, most all with the "junk" yamaha skiis. With a little modification and proper set up, the stock yammie ski works as good or better than most aftermarket skiis on packed/ groomed trail. I have tried the curve skiis in various conditions, and never got any result worth spending $500 for. As far as an aftermarket "trail" ski goes, I believe the kimpex arrow to be the best. If you like to play off trail along with trail ride, the Powder Pro is the way to go.
By the way, I am not the only one who feels this way about the curve skiis. But I guess if you are a TY advertiser, almost every post that has anything that could be construed as negative about your product, true or not, a lot of the time gets deleted. I am not trying to bash, I just think all opinions (posts), good or bad, from members about advertizers' product should have the right to be heard without the fear of being deleted.

Jeez, would ya just drink the kool-aid already. It aint that bad!!

What is good for one might not be good for another. God forbid somebody can give an OPEN, HONEST, EDUCATED opinion on something without being ridiculed or bashed. I thought this is how this great forum started..idea and experience sharing, good or BAD.

--Steve (O.C.)

PS. Like most said....ANYTHING is an improvement over the standard Yamaha stockers. I tried the Curves, liked em. They are a great ski. Just not worth all the extra coin (for me) over what my C&A Razors cost me.

 

[Crewchief47]

But I guess if you are a TY advertiser, almost every post that has anything that could be construed as negative about your product, true or not, a lot of the time gets deleted. I am not trying to bash, I just think all opinions (posts), good or bad, from members about advertizers' product should have the right to be heard without the fear of being deleted.

I'll take issue with this. We don't just delete opposing opinion. Your post is still here isn't it? The problem with most negative posts is they are RANTS that often stray off into left field. If a poster can't control his emotion in a thread, then he risks it disappearing. We haven't the time or desire to weed through a thread, deleting individual posts after it has gone south overnight. I think if members do enough research on TY, they can find the pros and cons of any advertiser products, we can't hold everyones hands to do that research though.

An example of a bad post reply would be "don't buy the curves, they suck!" (I know, a little basic but it will do). The better response to keep things flowing along is "I liked the Arrow the best on my sled".

This isn't all directed at you but you gave me an in.

PS. I'm still on the poopy stock skis.

 

[Curve Industries]

Nick and I had a closer look at the MT9 at Syracuse and were happy to see that Yamaha DID NOT infringe on our patent. Although the MT9 bears a striking resemblance to our ski from the top, our patent is essentially a ski profile that is continuously variable and furthermore, unable to be drawn in two dimensions.

The bottom of the MT9 resembles the traditional Yamaha trail ski with two concave constant radius channels; one along each side of the keel. It is very wide so it should offer excellent flotation. This new ski is also blow molded and the loop, ski and saddle are all integrated as one piece.

We are up at the Toronto show right now. They've had these new skis on a camo'd Nytro and I'll check to see if it's there tomorrow. If the machine is present, I'll snap some shots so everyone has a better idea of what they look like from both sides.

- Sean

www.CurveIndustries.com
www.RideWithRobbie.com

 

[GotJuice]

pictures would be great!

Do they have a deep keel like the current MNT. ski and are they the same plane instead of the current design were it roles up in the midle a little bit. Pictures would be great especially if they were next to the current MNT. sled ski to compare widths etc.
Waiting for Curve industries to bring their mountain ski to the table....come on guys really need a mid width approximately 8.75 to 9 inch type ski, the Simmons are just a bit to wide and heavy and don't have quite deep enough keel to steer aggressively is powder when you can't carve. The powder pro's in an 8.75" width would be awesome or the C&A XT in the same width, soething aggressive......patiently waiting I suppose.

 

[BETHEVIPER]

John, are my skis in yet??????

 

[TechMaples]

But I guess if you are a TY advertiser, almost every post that has anything that could be construed as negative about your product, true or not, a lot of the time gets deleted. I am not trying to bash, I just think all opinions (posts), good or bad, from members about advertizers' product should have the right to be heard without the fear of being deleted.

I'll take issue with this. We don't just delete opposing opinion. Your post is still here isn't it? The problem with most negative posts is they are RANTS that often stray off into left field. If a poster can't control his emotion in a thread, then he risks it disappearing. We haven't the time or desire to weed through a thread, deleting individual posts after it has gone south overnight. I think if members do enough research on TY, they can find the pros and cons of any advertiser products, we can't hold everyones hands to do that research though.

An example of a bad post reply would be "don't buy the curves, they suck!" (I know, a little basic but it will do). The better response to keep things flowing along is "I liked the Arrow the best on my sled".

This isn't all directed at you but you gave me an in.

PS. I'm still on the poopy stock skis.

I hear ya. I wasn't trying to start a great big sh*tstorm. I was more upset with ferdog93, and went a little crazy, I guess.
And no, Scott. They have not come in yet!!!

 

[Curve Industries]

GotJuice, we are working very closely with Boondocker and Brett Rasmussen on some new mountain goods that you're gonna love!

MT9 Pics to come...

- Sean

www.CurveIndustries.com
www.RideWithRobbie.com

 

[Super Sled]

GotJuice, we are working very closely with Boondocker and Brett Rasmussen on some new mountain goods that you're gonna love!

MT9 Pics to come...

- Sean

www.CurveIndustries.com
www.RideWithRobbie.com

I like Curve's ideas. I'd be interested in them if they were wider by 2+ inches at each point. A price break in the &^$^%# economy would help also!

Mike

 

[Curve Industries]

Well, turns out there are no MT9's on display here in Toronto! We tried - Sorry for the disappointment.

Thank you Mike. We live breath and sleep the advancement of this sport. The way we look at it, the more we push the envelope, the harder the OEM's will push and everyone ultimately wins. I love the fact that you have Tyler into the sport so young. One thing we all need to remember is with the public encroachment on our riding areas, increased regulation and the ever present economic pressures, the younger generations aren't brought up with the sport as much as they used to be.

Snowmobiling is one of the greatest freedoms there is. We must all work together to ensure that freedom is protected now and well into the future. Start them young while keeping them open minded and responsible - the sport stays strong.

- Sean

www.CurveIndustries.com
www.RideWithRobbie.com

 

[the kitchen]

I think most people miss understand the true characteristics of DARTING. There is darting and there is chaseing. Darting will make your sled twitchy, jerky and unpredictable at any and all speeds. Chaseing is when you slow down and all the weight goes to the skis and your sled will wonder a bit. Most after market skis will rail the corners with no darting which is a huge improvement over stock. I can't imagine curve skis dart, my USI's do not dart and they rail corners like I expected them to AWSOME. The leading edge is designed to eliminate the chaseing when most of the weight is moved to the skis as you back off of the throttle. This will keep you in a straight line on or off the throttle. Sean, Great Idea!! All other skis use duel runners to eliminate both problems, but not without sacrificeing the hard steering with two runners on each ski. The leading edge does not promote the hard steering in eirly morning hard pack. We need snow to try these out!!

 

[BETHEVIPER]

hey, kitchen, Have I drank with you at the Black Duck? Are you a friend of Mikes? Yamarocket? He lives in Readfield, he calls it northern massachusetts.

 

[the kitchen]

Betheviper, I don't beleive that we have met. But I would not mind meeting a few of you guys up here in maine. Once the season starts look for the snow flap on an 06 attak that says "the kitchen".

 

[justinator]

Did you see that Curve ind. now has a "leading edge" dartless plate for their "dartless" skiis. Why would you need such a plate on a ski that was designed not to dart in the first place?
I guess I understand the logic, the other day I bought a new camo jacket for hunting. I got it home and promptly covered the whole jacket in camo duct tape.
One thing I can say about those "dartless" skiis is, that I have never tried a ski that is that predictable! In my experience they work exactly the same in any snow condition....poorly.
I am looking forward to trying the new yamaha ski. Hopefully it will perform somewhere close to slp's powder pro. I love the pp skiis!

Did you happen to read the whole thread on "The leading edge"? this product is for use on rock hard icy conditions, where there is very little or no snow. All this product does is help aid the runners in these conditions. I'm having a hard time figuring out why you would bash there ideas, I for one think its nice to see someone push the envelope and be inovative. all Curve is doing is making a good product better, and striving to be the best.

I am sorry if you think my opinion is bashing. "Pushing the envelope and or being innovative" in my mind, would have to been, producing a ski that performs as advertised. I think it is sad that people have spent $500 on a set of skiis to improve the handling and darting of a sled, only to have to spend another $80 to make the ski do the same thing a stock yamaha ski does with dartless or pipe mod done to it. I call a spade a spade. If they work for you, great! But I have yet to see anyone in person who thinks any different than what I have found. I'll stick to my powder pros or the junk yamaha skiis.

The Curve XS skis do work very well compared to OEM ski's. If you have never seen in person that they are an improvment, then obviously you don't know how to set up a sled. Also, "the leading edge" is not a must have for the Curve ski's, but an OPTIONAL add-on FOR ROCK HARD ICEY CONDITIONS.

Thats hilarious, the only time these skis did not dart was on rock hard icey conditions. The first time I tried them was these exact conditions and I was impressed. A day after conditions returned to "normal" and thats when I realized I got suckered into spending $500+ on skis that are no different than anything else out there. My mountain skis with qual;ipieces cobra head runners dont dart and float wayyyyyy better than the curves so what am I missing???I also became sick and tired of everyone saying its your setup, you cant set up a sled etc when the truth is that I have more time invested in suspension setups and just plain old experimenting with sleds than I care to talk about. Everything said by Katahdin Lodge and BETHEVIPER I have agreed with so far........but then again what the hell do we know about snowmobiling, I mean its not like we have thousands and thousands of miles of trails crossing our front yards or anything?? Do people from northern maine even get to ride sled????? hmmmmm