New M9 yamaha ski

[BETHEVIPER]

Justin, how do those Cobra heads work when going hard into a corner? I have heard good things about their tracking and have heard nothing really about how they bite in a hard corner.

PM me when there is riding in Fort.

 

[justinator]

Justin, how do those Cobra heads work when going hard into a corner? I have heard good things about their tracking and have heard nothing really about how they bite in a hard corner.

PM me when there is riding in Fort.

I'm running the 6 inchers and the way I am setup currently they have a little bit of predictable understeer, which I happen to like. I do believe the setup could be changed a bit to have them more aggressive but I'm happy with what I have. They do track awesome though.

 

[TechMaples]

justinator, we have to make it a point to meet to ride this winter. We ride from our shop every wed night, and I ride at least 1 day each weekend.

 

[hondo]

Did you see that Curve ind. now has a "leading edge" dartless plate for their "dartless" skiis. Why would you need such a plate on a ski that was designed not to dart in the first place?
I guess I understand the logic, the other day I bought a new camo jacket for hunting. I got it home and promptly covered the whole jacket in camo duct tape.
One thing I can say about those "dartless" skiis is, that I have never tried a ski that is that predictable! In my experience they work exactly the same in any snow condition....poorly.
I am looking forward to trying the new yamaha ski. Hopefully it will perform somewhere close to slp's powder pro. I love the pp skiis!

Did you happen to read the whole thread on "The leading edge"? this product is for use on rock hard icy conditions, where there is very little or no snow. All this product does is help aid the runners in these conditions. I'm having a hard time figuring out why you would bash there ideas, I for one think its nice to see someone push the envelope and be inovative. all Curve is doing is making a good product better, and striving to be the best.

I am sorry if you think my opinion is bashing. "Pushing the envelope and or being innovative" in my mind, would have to been, producing a ski that performs as advertised. I think it is sad that people have spent $500 on a set of skiis to improve the handling and darting of a sled, only to have to spend another $80 to make the ski do the same thing a stock yamaha ski does with dartless or pipe mod done to it. I call a spade a spade. If they work for you, great! But I have yet to see anyone in person who thinks any different than what I have found. I'll stick to my powder pros or the junk yamaha skiis.

The Curve XS skis do work very well compared to OEM ski's. If you have never seen in person that they are an improvment, then obviously you don't know how to set up a sled. Also, "the leading edge" is not a must have for the Curve ski's, but an OPTIONAL add-on FOR ROCK HARD ICEY CONDITIONS.

Thats hilarious, the only time these skis did not dart was on rock hard icey conditions. The first time I tried them was these exact conditions and I was impressed. A day after conditions returned to "normal" and thats when I realized I got suckered into spending $500+ on skis that are no different than anything else out there. My mountain skis with qual;ipieces cobra head runners dont dart and float wayyyyyy better than the curves so what am I missing???I also became sick and tired of everyone saying its your setup, you cant set up a sled etc when the truth is that I have more time invested in suspension setups and just plain old experimenting with sleds than I care to talk about. Everything said by Katahdin Lodge and BETHEVIPER I have agreed with so far........but then again what the hell do we know about snowmobiling, I mean its not like we have thousands and thousands of miles of trails crossing our front yards or anything?? Do people from northern maine even get to ride sled????? hmmmmm

Justinator,

Right now I have just under 10,000 miles on Curve XS skis.

From Fort Kent we live approximately 14 miles from each other.

Hopefully some time this winter, we can meet over at my place for a test and tune session. BTV and anyone else in the area is also invited.

I have an extra pair of Curves with a set of "Leading Edges".

I have all the tools and a hoist to make easy quick adjustments.

The "Leading Edge" was in fact designed for rock hard conditions we experienced here last year, as well as other areas of the country.

I don't care what skis you had on last year. If there are deep cut grooves on an extreme hard pack, rock-hard-trail-surface, a runner will fall into the groove and cause a sled to dart, twitch, or waddle. The real term is dart.

The "Leading Edge" in two ways will stabilize the ski and prevent darting.

One: The small twin carbides are designed to help track the ski while...

Two: The bottom part of the "Leading Edge" prepares the snow to a flat surface in which the single runner and carbide on the Curve ski can work and track straight and corner very predictably on its own prepared surface.

In normal conditions, the ski along with a proper set up will work just fine. The feature of the "Leading Edge" makes this ski work better in any condition. For many sledders in this scenario this added feature is a neccessity and of great value for the additional comfort and predictability.

Adjustments do need to be made. In my case with Curves on my 09 Venture, I had to tighten the center shock spring pre-load two turns, because the steering was a bit heavy. With the OEM skis the sled in it's stock configuration was way too loose.

My 05 Venture was perfect and required no adjustments. Since, I have made a couple of minor adjustments.

Set up and patience means quite a bit.

The best thing to do is have a test and tune session and clarify any internet discussions that could be misinterpreted on this thread.

For example: You say "po-ta-to",... I say "po-tah-toe"...etc... You get my point...

Hopefully, this will clear the air and provide everyone a fair and balanced look at the ski. We can clearly discuss a set-up and you can try different set-ups, no-harm no-foul....

Fair enough????

As compared to my miles of OEM use, with dualies, Precisions with very hard turning, Mountain skis with dualies, which was my choice because I needed the extra floation... In my opinion, Curves are well worth the investment!

My last point: Check out the November issue of "American Snowmobiler Magazine", which is available at Paradis Grocery. Toward the back of the magazine in the travel section is an article on "The County". Despite riding in late March with Chief Editor, Mark Savage,
absolutely loved riding our trails. He was absolutely 100% impressed with what we have available right out our back door!

 

[BETHEVIPER]

Bob, I noticed you were plugging the county for us. Best kept secret(not now) in sledding. Thanks for that plug.

 

[hondo]

Thanks Scott,... and you are welcome,

I met Mark Savage at Hay Days last year when he did the AmSnow article on the Guinness Run.

He's a great guy with a passion for snowmobiling.

I invited him up to "The County" and he took me up on the invitation. He was absolutely amazed at the trails, despite a day of rain.

As I mentioned at the Houlton Rotary Club presentation, I thought it would take a year for the word to get out.

For some, the tourism issue is somewhat of of a double edged sword.

Do you want to keep the "The County" a well kept secret? or Do you want businesses to be more fruitful and survive a little better throughout the Northern Maine winter months?

Bottom line: Hopefully in some way this article will make a positive difference and help generate more business activity during the winter months.

Now it's up to the businesses to provide the "Added Value".

In the article, did you notice both my sleds the 05 and 09 RS Venture's were pictured with Curve skis.

The sleds provided for Mark to ride by our other buddy, whom I refuse to work with, were not outfitted with stock OEM runners / carbides...Speaks volumes doesn't it?

Thanks for the acknowledgemet Scott. TY Ride is in Eagle Lake, on February 28, 2010. "Rxrider" from Norway will be here riding for 2 weeks during that time...

Hope to see you this "winta!"

 

[thetruck454]

Honda,

I ride in Maine from milinocket all the way up to houlton and and inbetween. Are you running the reccommended carbide size for the curve skis?

I am worried that with the smaller sizes of carbides and those icy corners we get I'm gonna be caught off guard.

Any feedback on this?

 

[hondo]

I've been running 6" shaper bars and have found them a bit on the aggressive side for the RS Venture GT.

I have a set of 4" and 6" Magnum's which are more rounded bar stock than shapers. I'm going to play around with these sets to determine what fits best on the newer RS Venture in conjunction with running the "Leading Edge".

The new "leading edge" is the key to determining how much carbide is comfortable for an individuals requirements based on his or her application.

I'll post my findings.

 

[GotJuice]

getting off topic here....

not trying to rain on the parade but this post was about the new ski not everyones carbides........ any photo's yet on the new ski?

 

[hondo]

Plus, someone needs to report on the skis performance.

Pic's and Performance report please...

 

[yamadoo]

I get some what of kick out of all these ski posts.

Being simple and CHEAP over 7 k miles ago I went to the shim, saver and Bergstum triple option. I do not have a push or a darting problem, I do not think the STOCK SKi's are JUNK, but I am sure there is better.

Last year I rode a Rev with their dual runner ski's after my buddies son was wanting a ride on my Apex. I did not note a huge improvement.

One thing I can say about Curves, they sure always take the 'High road' when criticized and I appreciate that. If I was to update I would give them a look for that reason and the emphasis on technology not just marketing.

My two cents

Not sure if it was worth even that LOL

 

[hondo]

Well spent change Yamadoo!

Superb editorial observation.

There certainly are many ways to make handling better.

As always, you've found the right word.

The key word here is "technology".

Over the years Curve Industries has done their due diligence and homework (pun intended) to engineer and develop technologically advanced products.

More exciting products to follow.

I know I sound biased and in Curves corner?

The reason why is: Because I have not found a better ski combination.

Another 96 cents and I'll buy you a cup of coffee at our local coffee shop! LOL...

What we need now is to find a Guinnea Pig to give us a report on the new M9 ski. Anyone?

 

[snowbeast]

I've been running 6" shaper bars and have found them a bit on the aggressive side for the RS Venture GT.

I have a set of 4" and 6" Magnum's which are more rounded bar stock than shapers. I'm going to play around with these sets to determine what fits best on the newer RS Venture in conjunction with running the "Leading Edge".

The new "leading edge" is the key to determining how much carbide is comfortable for an individuals requirements based on his or her application.

I'll post my findings.

Hi bob i bet those 6" shapers would be about perfect on my 07 apex gt,i now have a house in patten,right next to the hanger restraunt,on rt. 11 so i could hook up with you for a ski swap. Pete

 

[hondo]

Hi Pete,

Good to hear from you.

You bet!

Or just ride up here to my place. Either way we need to ride a bit this winter.

 

[BETHEVIPER]

stole these pictures from another post

by the looks of the keel, they will need some dartless but they do look good. I wonder how this product takes paint? Anyone here familiar with the plastic used for blowmolding?