tdog1225
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I would like some input on a new track. My sled currently has the 144 1.25" ripsaw with lots of studs. In Iowa with lots of rough fields and road crossings I like studs. So my questions are will the 1.5" challenger be a good option? I think I've heard that there is a 1.5" ripsaw. I know lots of you on here really rave about the 1.75"BC. But I can't stud that track. I ride trails and have going to deep snow areas more to ride and the 1.25" is just not cutting it anymore. If I get the BC can I run non extros. Do I need to drop a tooth on the small gear? I also really don't want to remove the protectors. I'm looking for something that will hold up non studded/ studded and will really perform in the deep. Any advice? 
terez
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Tall order as you know trying to cover that much spectrum.
Anything over 1.25 gets to be pretty tough to stud without issues and weight.
The studs end up being so long they bend and cause all kings of track issues as well as you end up with a crazy heavy track that baloons and limits top end. The risk of a pullout(s) and or other track/sled damage is way high too. Need to keep all the protectors and even maybe more which has all it's complications too.
IMO I would run a 1.5 or 1.75 that has a hard durometer block pattern like the Predator, Intense or Back country.
These will give you the lug height to shovel serious snow for off trail and the harder durometer paddles work pretty well on hardpack for traction and they hold up way better than the mtn style tracks with softer lugs....they simply lay over on hardpack which spins and they don't hold up at all as they heat up, delaminate internally and shed lugs externally.
You should also consider a ICE Ripper in a 1.5 height if you are willing to stay with a 1.5. These tracks give good traction on hardpack and ice, are very durable and Light....and no stud issues...great go if you can live with the lug height available.
I am not sure of the max lug height in an ice rippper but I think they max out at 1.5??
You could also look at using the ice riper style screw in lug screws if you are running a stiff lug paddle that has a lug style that accomodates them.
One guys 2c
Tall order as you know trying to cover that much spectrum.
Anything over 1.25 gets to be pretty tough to stud without issues and weight.
The studs end up being so long they bend and cause all kings of track issues as well as you end up with a crazy heavy track that baloons and limits top end. The risk of a pullout(s) and or other track/sled damage is way high too. Need to keep all the protectors and even maybe more which has all it's complications too.
IMO I would run a 1.5 or 1.75 that has a hard durometer block pattern like the Predator, Intense or Back country.
These will give you the lug height to shovel serious snow for off trail and the harder durometer paddles work pretty well on hardpack for traction and they hold up way better than the mtn style tracks with softer lugs....they simply lay over on hardpack which spins and they don't hold up at all as they heat up, delaminate internally and shed lugs externally.
You should also consider a ICE Ripper in a 1.5 height if you are willing to stay with a 1.5. These tracks give good traction on hardpack and ice, are very durable and Light....and no stud issues...great go if you can live with the lug height available.
I am not sure of the max lug height in an ice rippper but I think they max out at 1.5??
You could also look at using the ice riper style screw in lug screws if you are running a stiff lug paddle that has a lug style that accomodates them.
One guys 2c
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I would love to have an ice ripper in a 1.5 but doesnt it only come in a 120" with a 2.86 pitch????.. so the drivers have to be replaced also???? the only thing i could find was a 121" ice attack with 1.375 lug and 2.52 pitch..and i really want a 1.5 or a 1.6,,i just spin up to about 60mph, i have some cat track on there that has 1.375 lugs.. and extroverts..
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I have a 1.5 ripsaw on my shorty and I really like how it performs! Hooks up very well. A ice ripper would be your best option, which I thought was a 1.6? Best of both worlds. I would not stud a big lug track, too much weight and not a bunch of room to clear everything. I would not hessitate putting another 1.5 ripsaw on my next sled, it works that well.
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I put the Ice Ripper XT on my Nytro over the summer and was able to ride for the first time last weekend. It is basically a ripsaw with the built in studs so having said that
it performed as expected on the trail and was acceptable crossing the road and at the gas stations.
According to my camoplast catalog all the ice ripper xt's have a 1.25" lug height but you can get it in 144" x 2.52 pitch. The Ice Attak is also available in 144" x 2.52 pitch but
the lug height is 1.063.
The Ice Attack "XT" in a 144" is 1.22" lug height with a 2.52 pitch. Looks like you have some more thinking/research to do. Maybe someone else has some more ideas.
it performed as expected on the trail and was acceptable crossing the road and at the gas stations.
According to my camoplast catalog all the ice ripper xt's have a 1.25" lug height but you can get it in 144" x 2.52 pitch. The Ice Attak is also available in 144" x 2.52 pitch but
the lug height is 1.063.
The Ice Attack "XT" in a 144" is 1.22" lug height with a 2.52 pitch. Looks like you have some more thinking/research to do. Maybe someone else has some more ideas.
tdog1225
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Thanks for the input guys!
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