NyTrOMaNIaC
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Just wanted to inform you guys that apparently if you buy a brand spankin new Yamaha snowmobile, that there is NO WARRANTY on the battery. None whatsoever, zip, zilch, nadda from day one ! My 2008 FX Nytro RTX battery isn't feeling the best lately, and this sled has YPP until Oct 2010, so I called my dealer first. They said no can do, so, I write an email off to Yamaha Canada. Same answer, NO WARRANTY AT ALL FROM DAY ONE, except they added "take it to your dealer and see if they can charge it". I've been running a trickle charger on it since a while now, and I even tried a 50A battery booster on the battery, and still nothing. I'm just so disappointed with the response about this, especially considering that my 2002 Yamaha Kodiak 400 SE uses the identical battery, and it lasted 7 years with the same maintenance. These suckers are $180 CDN each BTW !!! Just wanted to let you guys know about my experience, and that if your battery goes kapuut, you're on your own ! 
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run an optimate 3 or 4 battery charger/desulfator
this thing has saved batteries for me that mere mortal chargers couldnt even touch!
this thing has saved batteries for me that mere mortal chargers couldnt even touch!
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Did they fill it with water properly?
copo427ss
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if the dealers fill it and charge it wrong the batteries will die quickly. all dealers know of this and bring it up at update classes all the time. any battery over a 12 (ytx12-bs; ytx14-bs)must rest for at least an hour after adding the electrolyte, before it gets charged. and a half hour of rest for anything under a 12. the fabric needs time to soak up the fluid. otherwise it will never be fully charged and will die quickly. also they must be charged when not in long term use or they will die. im guessing hat your battery was slapped on the charger at the dealer as soon as the fluid was added.
seriously the best battery i have had is a walmart battery. it was in my bike for 5yrs. i sold the bike and the thing is still going strong. and i filled it in the parking lot and threw it right in the bike. go figure.
seriously the best battery i have had is a walmart battery. it was in my bike for 5yrs. i sold the bike and the thing is still going strong. and i filled it in the parking lot and threw it right in the bike. go figure.
NyTrOMaNIaC
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Just to clarify, I haven't taken the battery to my dealer yet (80 miles away one way trip) but I will be taking it to him in the next couple of weeks to see if he can bring it back to life. The thing that bothers me the most is that the identical battery (YUASA YTX20LBS) was in my Kodiak for 7 years before it failed, and this one only lasted 2 years. I thought for sure when I contacted my dealer that the battery was covered under the YPP, but like I said previously, even the original factory warranty doesn't cover it. I asked Yamaha Canada exactly who offers a warranty on the battery, and I still haven't received a straight answer. I've been running Yamaha recreational products since 83', bought 5 Yamaha sleds in the last 7 years, 4 Yamaha sportbikes since then as well, and the Kodiak ATV, and I've never had a battery fail in such a short time. Great way to take care of a very good customer for almost 30 years now....
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he means when they fill it when prepping the vehicle for sale..
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So it lasted 2 years, it is a wear item, they wear out. Some last 7 years some 2. Yamaha can't pay for every little thing that goes wrong on sleds. How are we to know it wasn't left freeze or stored in a 130 degree shed all summer. Buy a new battery and enjoy the winter. Maxdlx
NyTrOMaNIaC
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maxdlx said:
You sound just like the guy from Yamaha that I was talking to
Guys, I wasn't asking any member on here to warranty it, but I assure you, it was taken care of. And wear item or not, telling me it isn't even covered under the factory warranty is BS. My buddy had issues with his Suzuki ATV a couple years ago, the bike was eating batteries for breakfast. 3 batteries later, all covered under warranty within the first year, he ditched the bike, yet Suzuki still replaced the battery for the new owner over a year later. Bottom line is someone has to step up when the customer isn't at fault. I take care of my stuff, otherwise, I would have had this issue a lonnnng time ago. My machines are kept in my heated and insulated garage, and are transported in an enclosed trailer whenever needed. Like I said, no warranty AT ALL, even if it were brand new, one day old is the message I received. Just imagine if you bought a brand new sled in the fall (pre-season) and the battery died 4 weeks later before you got a chance to use it, and they said sorry, it's not covered ?!?!?? Even a cheap battery from crappy tire has warranty.
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1st, Pretty much everything is covered the first year. Second Yamaha Canada sucks...
3rd. Your dealer sucks. Put it to you this way. My dealer in the U.S. just warrantied all of my rear idler wheels. The wheels were good the bearings were shot. A good dealer can make it work, but like I said, it has to be winthin the first year. After that they have rules. But reguardless, Yamaha Canada sucks...
3rd. Your dealer sucks. Put it to you this way. My dealer in the U.S. just warrantied all of my rear idler wheels. The wheels were good the bearings were shot. A good dealer can make it work, but like I said, it has to be winthin the first year. After that they have rules. But reguardless, Yamaha Canada sucks...
snife
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Take it to your dealer and get them to put it on an optimate 4 set on MF 1.3 amps. If it says weak, get them to do it again and again at least 4 times and it will probably smarten up. It will likely take a day or more to do this.
Man does that sound like Yamaha Canada. I have lost all faith in them and I will buy every Yamaha from now on from the US.
NyTrOMaNIaC said:Just to clarify, I haven't taken the battery to my dealer yet (80 miles away one way trip) but I will be taking it to him in the next couple of weeks to see if he can bring it back to life. The thing that bothers me the most is that the identical battery (YUASA YTX20LBS) was in my Kodiak for 7 years before it failed, and this one only lasted 2 years. I thought for sure when I contacted my dealer that the battery was covered under the YPP, but like I said previously, even the original factory warranty doesn't cover it. I asked Yamaha Canada exactly who offers a warranty on the battery, and I still haven't received a straight answer. I've been running Yamaha recreational products since 83', bought 5 Yamaha sleds in the last 7 years, 4 Yamaha sportbikes since then as well, and the Kodiak ATV, and I've never had a battery fail in such a short time. Great way to take care of a very good customer for almost 30 years now....
SledFreak said:
I totally agree Yamaha Canada sucks you just keep seeing the same piss on the little guy attitude from them. Buy from the US from now on.
Screw your dealer and dont buy a battery from him either. Go buy a optimate 3 or 4 battery charger online not at your dealer and put it on your battery until the thing says the battery is up to snuff. That is all your dealer is going to do any way is put it on an optimate 3 or 4 chager. If the battery is still weak after this go to wally mart and buy an AGM battery there take it home and fill it let it sit for an evening then charge it with the optimate charger.
unpride
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What are the differences between the 3 and 4? I want to buy one just to have around. Another toy is always good to have
NyTrOMaNIaC
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unpride said:
I did a quick search online, and there seems to be all kinds of different ones out there, some model specific . Not sure which is better though. Any suggestions guys ?
