Oil change problem

[2008 Nytro RTX]

Ok,I changed the oil on my sled. Drained it from the oil Cyl. and the block of the motor and changed the filter. It reads to high or it reads to low I could never get it right. It is sitting on flat ground and still have trouble. Maybe its just the bubbles from the oil but I don't want to run it and start blowing seals left and right please help.

 

[Gibby]

If it is like the RX motors you are supposed to check the oil when the motor is warmed up for an accurate reading


also do not screw in the dip stick

Gibby

 

[2008 Nytro RTX]

Yes,The manual says both things. But the oil light comes on and its very low so I added under a 1/2 QT and now its reading to much,Which it don't make sense.

 

[BLUEBALLER]

this is round # 2 at this oil change isn't it. Perhaps you need to have a buddy come over and give you a hand.

Did you read your manual step by step? I didn't think it was that complicated.

 

[2008 Nytro RTX]

I lost my manual so that is kind of hard. my problem is why it keeps reading high and low

 

[LJ 452]

When doing the full change, oil can drain/crank drain/filter. You should be able to add about 3.5 quarts without worry. Check the dip stick to make sure the oil is in fact in the can (drain plugs installed). Start the machine, let it run untill the oil is warmed. Turn off engine, wait about 30 seconds, check oil level. If low (which it should be) add about a cup or 8oz. Start engine, run for a few minutes (again until oil is warm). Shut off engine, wait about 30 seconds, check oil....you get the idea. It may take three to five times to get it right. As I've said before, if your in the upper third of the safe range, I would just leave it. Are you replacing the electrical conector on the dip stick each time you start, if not that's your problem, that connector is what will trigger the oil level warning.

 

[arteeex]

The complete owner's manual can be downloaded from the Yamaha web site after you sign in to their "My Yamaha" service.

 

[2008 Nytro RTX]

Is the service manual worth the 70 dollars its cost or should I just get the owners manual?

 

[towerrigger]

Owners manual-http://www.yamaha-motor.com/sport/service/viewmanuals/viewmanuals.aspx?ls=sport


service manual- http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php? ... c&start=30


service manual third post down, you can thank ttabs for that one over on the mountain section. If your having this much trouble with it I would strongly consider the dealership.

 

[2008 Nytro RTX]

I just don't understand it. But maybe I am just reading the stick wrong,Because the stick is tan which is damn near the same color of the oil

 

[Timeline]

Ensure you check the oil with the dip stick resting on top of the threads. Do not screw it in. Engine must be warm.
Disconnecting the dipstick electrical connector while it is in the tank will not cause the low oil light to come on as suggested above. Providing you have oil in the tank that is. The switch is a float type switch. When you have oil holding the float up the switch will be open or have no continuity. When you are low on oil the switch closes and now has continuity and this will turn your oil level light on. If your oil light is on and you disconnect the connector your light should go off once oil drains out of the switch and the float drops. You may just have a stuck float or something. If this is your first oil change it is possible that you have some debris binding up the float. Most people have found some debris in their oil on the first change.
A simple way to test this is to have it running and connected but out of the tank. Turn the connected dipstick upside down and right side up you should see the light going on and off.

 

[Nikolai]

Not trying to be a d*ck, but if the oil change is that difficult I would say the manual is worth the $70.

-Run the sled for a few minutes to get the oil warm
-shut the sled off and wait a few seconds
-pull out the dipstick and wipe it off, then set it in the oil reservoir again but DO NOT screw it down
-pull it out quickly and you should be able to clearly see the oil level
-if it is to high just loosen the drain plug and drain some oil out until it's between the high and low marks

 

[LJ 452]

Ensure you check the oil with the dip stick resting on top of the threads. Do not screw it in. Engine must be warm.
Disconnecting the dipstick electrical connector while it is in the tank will not cause the low oil light to come on as suggested above. Providing you have oil in the tank that is. The switch is a float type switch. When you have oil holding the float up the switch will be open or have no continuity. When you are low on oil the switch closes and now has continuity and this will turn your oil level light on. If your oil light is on and you disconnect the connector your light should go off once oil drains out of the switch and the float drops. You may just have a stuck float or something. If this is your first oil change it is possible that you have some debris binding up the float. Most people have found some debris in their oil on the first change.
A simple way to test this is to have it running and connected but out of the tank. Turn the connected dipstick upside down and right side up you should see the light going on and off.

Your right! I thought when changing the oil in my Apex I had the light come on once when I left the connecor off. I guess I didn't. Just looked at the service manual and indeed when the float is in the down position it should complete the circuit vise versa when up. Seems weird to have a normally open circuit for a safey device. Whatever, I retract the statment above.

 

[2008 Nytro RTX]

I know how to do the steps but for some reason I can not get the oil level right,Maybe my problem is we used a oil filter that we got from an Auto-parts store. We gave him the Yamaha filter to see if he can cross it with another filter and get did but the only thing is the filter we got is a little longer,Will that matter?

 

[towerrigger]

oh man, your trusting a auto parts store to get you a filter? Dude, your just asking for some trouble. Trust the yammie parts. With a bigger filter it will take more oil. These things are not supposed to be this hard. I would take it to the dealer. Are you losing oil from around the filter?