Please Explain The Logic of no tether

[FxsX24]

yeah tors was a issue in the 80s when they all got unplugged cause they messed with the sleds, tethers are something we should have on a agressive sled a tether COSTS not RETAILS probally less than $10
granted they need new molds or a drill but im sure they can do it, or atleast offer a plug and play (im sure theres something in the mold that may pop out to fit a tether (though i dont have one or seen one up close to confirm that)

 

[kcusscam]

Lets take a vote.

 

[terret725]

i see it this simple. for a teather to be effective it has to be atacthed to u. on the 4 storkes u have to let the sled warm up suficently that takes a few mins. i dont know about u but i turn my sled on and then go in side or go do somthing else for a 5 mins. i wouldnt want to have to sit there and wait for it to warm up. they arnt like a 2 stroke where u can start it rev it up under engagement for a while then just take off slow. fact is most people, other then the people who would pay to have one extra, are just goin to let the teather hang there un hooked. how many times have u jumped off ur sled while it was running to say hi to some one u know coming the other way? or to go the bath room, ect... would u want to shut off ur sled and start it ever time and risk the chance of foweling a plug? atleat on my sled its is not a on side of trail job to change a plug. IMO i dont think they offer it cause they know most people wont use it and it is just one more way to cut cost.

 

[kcusscam]

I agree that most people would not use it, in fact I bet most people don't use it on a two stroke but what I really would like to see, maybe someone has one, is a tether that was built into the kill switch, kind of like a 3/4 circle that fit just under the kill switch knob, they still could save some cost by integrating it. Hell you never can be to safe, most of the time anyways.

 

[Sled Dog]

Simply build an electronic tether that you keep in your pocket. Walk away out of range so far and the sled stops. Would double as a theft deterent as well as the key. This technology is already here used in most vehicle todays just make it so the key has to be near the sled to run. If you fall off the sled engine stops. Maybe I should invent this and patent it would work for bikes, quads as well.

 

[kcusscam]

Simply build an electronic tether that you keep in your pocket. Walk away out of range so far and the sled stops. Would double as a theft deterent as well as the key.

I like that idea even better, plus you could set it on the dash while it is warming up. I did the same thing to my mini mag and got about a mile down the trail and realized it, except in this case you would know pretty quick if it fell off.

Just had a thought, what happens when the battery goes dead in the device?

 

[no4smoke]

How about a sensor that kills the motor when it is upside down. Wait, thats going to piss off you guys that do backflips!

 

[NytroFIB]

I have seen a kill switch that has the tether circle under it.
I just dont remember what it was on!
Anyone help me out?

Maybe my buddies 120 AC that he has for his son?

My sons 120 POO has the tether on the dash.

 

[Mikecam]

I have the tors and the tether. I use the tether regularly. Very simple to unhook. I installed the tether because I trade with my riding buddies and they have tethers and use them. I also switch with the wife and I like her to be as safe as possible. She rides a skidoo with a tether. My first sled I bought, brand new as well was a safari 377 Electra. I was 16 so it was cool to me.LOL Well didn't it go and have the single carb ice up and stick the throttle open and after I fell off I watched it head into the trees at a high rate of speed. Once in a lifetime is enough for me. And yes I left the tether attached to the key.

 

[Mikey]

I think that if someone does some research on this you will find that its due to patents and copyrights Polaris uses A normally open Arctic Cat uses A Normally closed design and Ski-Doo uses their own design that incorporates A chip.... I dont believe Yamaha could use a Tether unless it came up with its own design... and why would they when they have the TORS patented. Add your own. Thats probably the only thing you can do as I doubt Yamaha will introduce one as they go by the theory that if it aint broke dont fix. And from an engineering standpoint its deemed just fine. Real world we know its not so add one on your sled is probably the only solution. The hook one under the kill switch I think is a marine design as it releases 90 degrees to the switch not always a good idea for A sled but good for A control that is on the side of the gunnel's.

I have both TORS and A tether so I could care less....

 

[nate007]

I don't ever see anybody actually hook the tether cord to themselves anyway.
I have see one that uses a small clip that slides under a button that you must lift to install. pull the tether out- button pops in - dead. Has anybody seen these?
I've never had any issue with the TORS, and I think I have yet to fully understand what it does.

 

[Mikey]

The TORS consists of two switchs one on the carbs and one on the throttle lever. When you depress the throttle lever you close the switch on the lever and open the one on the carbs. When the lever is untouched the one on the carbs is closed. If in a case of the throttle being stuck open the switch on the carb is open and when you let the lever go the switch on the lever closes activating the TORS and limiting the RPM to i believe 2500.


The lil fork type kill switch you speak of needs to be mounted 90 degrees to the direction that the cord will be pulled from. they tend to break in the cold when pulled straight from the switch. The fork type you speak of is normally used in marine applications where the controls are mounted on the side of the boat.

Thats a good point you bring up about nobody using the teather and leaving it on the sled. The TORS will work regardless as you dont have to connect it to your body.

 

[Len Todd]

I had teathers for at least 12 years. Never hooked them to me. I also had several problems with them (e.g. cutting off the sled, had one stolen, etc.) For my kind of riding, I always felt they were a pain then the butt. If I was racing, then I would think it would be appropriate. However, on the Trail we are supposed to have these things under our control. Right, guys?

The only time I saw a a really good use for a teather was when an idiot was making repeated fast runs at the back of my kid's sled, which was running in front of me on a vary narrow trail. Finally he did hit the back of my kid's sled. So I pulled along side of him and forced him to either hit me, go into the stream (10' drop) or stop. When he stopped, I grabbed his teather and took off. For some reason, that was the last time we saw him.

I figured that was better than what was coming if he kept it up. You see my kid is a Sherriff. I could see he was getting a bit frustrated with the Guy. He later told me he did not stop the guy becasue he did not want to Klugg up our day "cuffing and stuffing that idiot." I felt that this was the best use for the teather I had ever seen. It is much easier that grabbin' the key.

 

[rightarm]

Ok, I just don't get why these sleds don't have a tether on them, I understand they have the tors but can someone explain why Yamaha would leave out this device. I believe it should be there and here is why, if I fall of the sled the tors should slow it down and it will come to a stop but what happens when I fall off and it is upside down, I really don't think I like the idea of it running in the ditch upside down while I am pealing myself of the trail. I like the glocks but I don't own one, why, because the refuse to put a simply safety device on the firearm, granted the tether is more of a safety for the sled but you get the idea.

So with that said I think that I am going to install one. Which brings me to my question, has anyone done this. I can follow instructions and know how to use a set of tools, but my electrical knowledge is limited to if a wire is coming in then there should be a ground or natural somewhere, oh and I know that Watts = Amps x Volts. I guess I would have rather them had include it and nobody use it than somebody need it and nobody have it.

I had the same issue about no pull start but I got over that one, maybe somebody can convince of this one also, I dare you to try. I am trying to convert back but it is just taking me a while.

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! JUST INSTALL ONE!

I suppose this is Yamaha's fault.

 

[FxsX24]

The TORS consists of two switchs one on the carbs and one on the throttle lever. When you depress the throttle lever you close the switch on the lever and open the one on the carbs. When the lever is untouched the one on the carbs is closed. If in a case of the throttle being stuck open the switch on the carb is open and when you let the lever go the switch on the lever closes activating the TORS and limiting the RPM to i believe 2500.

my SRV had TORS on it, where is the throttle lever switch? o only saw the one on the carb (unless it is in withe the kill sw)