TurboJamie said:
Av gas is a leaded fuel.
Looks ms 109 is the highest that VP fuels offers and should be more than enough for my application. It has a motor octane of 101 where as C-12 is 108 motor octane and I usually mix it 50/50 with 91 pump.
http://www.vpracingfuels.com/vp-drag-racing.html
http://www.vpracingfuels.com/vp-drag-racing.html
shawnmcgr
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I think MS109 has Ethanol in it, does that mean bumping up the fuel curve? I've heard you need to run a little richer with ethanol. I've avoided ethanol fuel so far but with boost and no lead it's going to be tough.
I'd like to run no lead so my o2 sensor lasts longer.
I'd like to run no lead so my o2 sensor lasts longer.
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stone88 said:
Do you think they are going to ban avgas from general aviation not a chance.
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no they wont ban av gaz!
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thats the hypocrisy of this banning for the racing industry it uses less then 2% of the leaded fuel introduced into our environment with the 98% or more being the aircraft industry. so wheres the problem one would say....
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That a stupid law.
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I would just setup to run avgas problem solved lots of supply and decent price 1.92 a liter in Orillia.
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how much MOTOR octane is avgaz?
and density?
and density?
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100LL (Avgas) 100.5 MON and 103.2 RON (101.5 AKI)
Sunoco 110
Specific Gravity 0.72
Research Octane 115
Motor Octane 105
Reid Vapor Pressure 8.0
Boiling Point (liquid to vapor)
10% Evaporation 160
90% Evaporation 260
100LL (Avgas)
Specific Gravity 0.67
Research Octane 103.2
Motor Octane 100.5
Reid Vapor Pressure 7.0
Boiling Point (liquid to vapor)
10% Evaporation 75
90% Evaporation 135
Torco 100 (Unleaded oxygenated)
Specific Gravity 0.75
Research Octane 101
Motor Octane 100
Reid Vapor Pressure 8.0
Boiling Point (liquid to vapor)
10% Evaporation 133
90% Evaporation 205
VP C10 (Unleaded non-oxygenated)
Specific Gravity 0.76
Research Octane 104
Motor Octane 96
Reid Vapor Pressure 1.9
Boiling Point (liquid to vapor)
10% Evaporation 212
90% Evaporation 266
Sunoco 110
Specific Gravity 0.72
Research Octane 115
Motor Octane 105
Reid Vapor Pressure 8.0
Boiling Point (liquid to vapor)
10% Evaporation 160
90% Evaporation 260
100LL (Avgas)
Specific Gravity 0.67
Research Octane 103.2
Motor Octane 100.5
Reid Vapor Pressure 7.0
Boiling Point (liquid to vapor)
10% Evaporation 75
90% Evaporation 135
Torco 100 (Unleaded oxygenated)
Specific Gravity 0.75
Research Octane 101
Motor Octane 100
Reid Vapor Pressure 8.0
Boiling Point (liquid to vapor)
10% Evaporation 133
90% Evaporation 205
VP C10 (Unleaded non-oxygenated)
Specific Gravity 0.76
Research Octane 104
Motor Octane 96
Reid Vapor Pressure 1.9
Boiling Point (liquid to vapor)
10% Evaporation 212
90% Evaporation 266
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Is sunoco 110 unleaded?
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TurboJamie said:
the problem is it is federal law therefore illegal giving them the means to enforce the use of it, transporting it, etc. this will be also enforced at tracks at races and while those who may have the ability to purchase av gas I am sure it wont be easy to use or purchase as soon as this law is enforced. its only a matter of time so best be doing what stone is doing and working with what is going to be allowed at races and for purchase in north america.
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propane or methanol is in our future
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puddytatman said:
Airports are all dying to sell fuel, beleive me you would have no problem rolling into Markham/Simcoe Regional/Orillia/Greenbank, maybe the larger guys like buttonville wouldn't sell ya but the airports I frequent you would have no probs. Like you say though if they enforce anything at the track etc your screwed. I usually have 2 45 gallon drums of avgas at each cottage just incase as well in VP cans ofcourse
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It is illegal to dispense 100LL avgas into anything that is not for an airplane (in the United States).
That being said if your container that you take to the airport has a Tail#....(Here in the states they usally start with the #N____) or the word experiental on it they can sell it to you leagally. Just some food for thought.
This info is not to be used for anything more than conversation...LOL
That being said if your container that you take to the airport has a Tail#....(Here in the states they usally start with the #N____) or the word experiental on it they can sell it to you leagally. Just some food for thought.
This info is not to be used for anything more than conversation...LOL
