RS Vector Ohlins Rear Shock Makes the Difference!

[Groomerdriver]

MM

"YUP" Dat B me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MM.

thought that was you! nice to see you here!

your sled ride the same as mine??

 

[MadMax]

I have mine set at full soft spring... Hard on stopper.. I think it rides good.. But not great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was hoping for more....That's why I was wondering if the clicker shock provided a soft but controled ride... I'm not much of a ditch banger. I like trail riding. I had the spring and stopper set at middle/middle most of the season last year. So I only have 100 miles on this newer set-up. It seems to ride as good as my wifes V-max 700. I still the love everything else about the sled. MM What is your handle on the other site???

 

[Shane]

Bruce has been AWESOME! Can't wait to ride my sled with all the set up stuff and tips from Bruce.

 

[Groomerdriver]

I have mine set at full soft spring... Hard on stopper.. I think it rides good.. But not great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was hoping for more....That's why I was wondering if the clicker shock provided a soft but controled ride... I'm not much of a ditch banger. I like trail riding. I had the spring and stopper set at middle/middle most of the season last year. So I only have 100 miles on this newer set-up. It seems to ride as good as my wifes V-max 700. I still the love everything else about the sled. MM What is your handle on the other site???

MM - I was on full soft on the springs. What are the stoppers?? You mean those things that mount to the rails? I took those off. Ride still sucks. Went to "middle" on the springs at the end of last year and redajusted the center shock spring. 0 miles on that setup . Bottom line is that I was hoping for MUCH MORE from this skid. I guess I got sucked into Yami's hype on this skid.

I also am just a trail rider, and like you, love everything else about the sled. When I can maybe I'll just buy an M10 and everything will be solved! I am "GD" over on Ultimate. Don't go there much anymore.

Shane - I'm glad you're happy with Bruce at Pioneer...............you must be a ditchbanger

 

[twomorestrokes]

MM and undecided...how much do you guys weigh? Medium spring setting offered comfy ride for me, but the occasional bottom out was too much. I had to go to the hard spring setting to try to keep from bottoming out. Moved my stoppers forward (soft) to cure the violent bottom out sensation. I'm 227.

 

[SKIDOZER]

adjusting the center spring helped soften the ride quite a bit for me. remember its a coupled suspension so both shocks work together.

It was to stiff in stutter bumps with center shock at stock setting for me.

 

[Groomerdriver]

I weigh 210, and my problem is not bottoming out, it's exactly the opposite....I want to sled to bottom on occasion but no matter what, it wont. Stops are out.

Ride is stiff all the time, and the stutters are horrible!

 

[twomorestrokes]

I weigh 210, and my problem is not bottoming out, it's exactly the opposite....I want to sled to bottom on occasion but no matter what, it wont. Stops are out.

Ride is stiff all the time, and the stutters are horrible!

Yeah, I remember you saying that in another thread. I don't get it.

 

[Groomerdriver]

I weigh 210, and my problem is not bottoming out, it's exactly the opposite....I want to sled to bottom on occasion but no matter what, it wont. Stops are out.

Ride is stiff all the time, and the stutters are horrible!

Yeah, I remember you saying that in another thread. I don't get it.

I'm not a suspension guru..just a "get on and go" type of rider. Most of the 15 Poo sleds I have owned were just that..get on and go. Maybe adjust the rear cam, but that was prety much it.

Something I just thought and should mention..the "sit in" seems to be just right. But holy cow the rest of the 7-8" of travel is sure a rough SOB!

I wonder is 90% of the problem is in the rear shock? I think Bruce at Pioneer said that people aren't experiencing the bottomong till the sled has over 1000 miles on it...mine has 565. Maybe my rear shock is stiffer than a ........(unprintable).......

Can somebody tell me if taking out the rear shock is "easy", and what do I have to do. I've taken skids out, but never just a shock while the skid is in the sled.

 

[MadMax]

I go 220... When I had it set at middle spring I didn't bottom out very often.. So I moved it to full soft spring, The stopper is confusing me I guess. I put it toward the back so it had to travel more to make contact.. I've never tried it toward the front.. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm I to would like to know how hard it is to change the rear shock.. MM.

 

[Shane]

undecided,

Nope, not a ditch banger, relatively agressive rider that still likes to cruise.

Remember, the springs ONLY control ride height. What you need to do is sit on the sled with all of your gear or with a 15 pound weight (I used a bag of dog food) and have someone measure at the rear of the sled how much "sag" you have. It should be approx. 4 inches. If it is more, try stiffening up the cams. If the sag is less, try softening the cams. If you are heavier like I am, (around 225 - 230) I ordered new (heavier) springs.

The shock is there to control dampening. I.e. how fast the suspension collapses and rebounds. Also, I had Bruce revalve the mid shock for my weight and riding style. As was mentioned earlier this suspension is a coupled one, such that the mid and rear shocks need to work together for if one is not doing its job correctly, it will cause the other to not do what it is designed for. When I pulled the rear skid, as you should always do at least once per season to service and inspection, I found the rear shock to be blown and bent.

I think this skid has GREAT potential, but us Yammi guys have to get used to tuning this type of suspension after all the years on the ProAction.

 

[twomorestrokes]

I'm not a suspension guru..just a "get on and go" type of rider. Most of the 15 Poo sleds I have owned were just that..get on and go. Maybe adjust the rear cam, but that was prety much it.

Something I just thought and should mention..the "sit in" seems to be just right. But holy cow the rest of the 7-8" of travel is sure a rough SOB!

I wonder is 90% of the problem is in the rear shock? I think Bruce at Pioneer said that people aren't experiencing the bottomong till the sled has over 1000 miles on it...mine has 565. Maybe my rear shock is stiffer than a ........(unprintable).......

Can somebody tell me if taking out the rear shock is "easy", and what do I have to do. I've taken skids out, but never just a shock while the skid is in the sled.

Wish I could help you with your complaint, but it leaves me scratching my head. I'm heavier than you are, but if anything, my Vector is too soft. Seems ok on the hard setting. I tried it on the medium setting, but couldn't imagine staying off the stoppers if I ever tried it on the soft setting.

MM, moving the stopper rearward on the rails does give you a little more travel, but also a much more positive stop as it contacts more toward the center of the torsion spring. Moving it forward toward the pivot point of the torsion spring will cause it to contact earlier, but produce a much softer feeling as the torsion spring can still flex past it somewhat. The way I see it, the softer setting has the potential for more kickback but less contact felt, where the harder setting has the potential for more of a violent bottom out sensation.

 

[Groomerdriver]

I'm not a suspension guru..just a "get on and go" type of rider. Most of the 15 Poo sleds I have owned were just that..get on and go. Maybe adjust the rear cam, but that was prety much it.

Something I just thought and should mention..the "sit in" seems to be just right. But holy cow the rest of the 7-8" of travel is sure a rough SOB!

I wonder is 90% of the problem is in the rear shock? I think Bruce at Pioneer said that people aren't experiencing the bottomong till the sled has over 1000 miles on it...mine has 565. Maybe my rear shock is stiffer than a ........(unprintable).......

Can somebody tell me if taking out the rear shock is "easy", and what do I have to do. I've taken skids out, but never just a shock while the skid is in the sled.

Wish I could help you with your complaint, but it leaves me scratching my head. I'm heavier than you are, but if anything, my Vector is too soft. Seems ok on the hard setting. I tried it on the medium setting, but couldn't imagine staying off the stoppers if I ever tried it on the soft setting.

MM, moving the stopper rearward on the rails does give you a little more travel, but also a much more positive stop as it contacts more toward the center of the torsion spring. Moving it forward toward the pivot point of the torsion spring will cause it to contact earlier, but produce a much softer feeling as the torsion spring can still flex past it somewhat. The way I see it, the softer setting has the potential for more kickback but less contact felt, where the harder setting has the potential for more of a violent bottom out sensation.

2MS - lots of people are scratching their heads! If Bruce at Pioneer is right, the shock on my sled should start to soften dramatically in the next 4-500 miles. He says people seem to complain about the bottoming after 1k miles.

Maybe my rear shock is mega stiff??? Ida know???!!! Nobody seems to know!

 

[twomorestrokes]

Wish I knew. Still seems like something's wrong with your particular sled. It seems to ride the opposite of other member's complaints. (too soft) I had to stiffen mine up pretty much when new. (100 miles)

 

[Groomerdriver]

Wish I knew. Still seems like something's wrong with your particular sled. It seems to ride the opposite of other member's complaints. (too soft) I had to stiffen mine up pretty much when new. (100 miles)

100 miles...really!!!!!....I'm really starting to wonder if my POS steel shock is defective? The skid itself is OK...dealer pulled and checked it for binding. I wish there was such a thing as a "loaner" shock!