RX-1 died today

[kinger]

^^^LOL Jack_shaft!

 

[RX1Maine]

I also had that same problem but the wire that was shorted was from my reverse rubbing through a wire running up that side.

 

[Boomer]

This is the post I remember reading when my RX-1 died on the trail yesterday. No click no nothing, and it was running great until I shut it off to look at the maps for directions. I attempted to remove the tool box cover to get the cup holders out, but those stupid Yamaha screws are too big and was frozen in and the toolkit screwdriver is useless. I didn't even think about the fuse, as the problem sounded exactly like this post and I'll bet it is the rubbed wire shorting out. Did enough pounding on the trails yesterday that probably shorted it after 150+ miles.

This summer I'm going over the whole sled and wrapping any wire that is anywhere near metal!

 

[vx700xtc]

I had the same symtoms, but my problem was the starter relay. Replaced the relay and 3500 miles of no problem.

 

[Philscbx]

Common problem for 03RX - front end, remove the toolbox and beer holder. Under there is the rectifier/voltage regulator. TWO SMALL WHITE wires - rub against the frame and short out.

This is exactly what I found prepping mine before ridding.
I tried to install beer tray and noticed the harness in this critical
position against the edge of the frame. I was surprised to see such careless routing.

I used wire ties to pull up the harness to a safer spot.

I also had what seemed to be a dead battery when using the extension leads from the battery. To charge or jump to.

Closer inspection from no response of charging found loose cables on the battery.

 

[buddah]

Did I forget to mention this same shi+ happened again 2 weeks ago. Killed another starter.....HOWEVER this time I got a used one from another member. Haven't got it in as yet because our snow died in the interim. We'll see how it goes..............

 

[RXJim]

This forum rocks. Because of this thread, I took my "beer cooler" out and checked the harness. Sure enough it was rubbing on the frame. It was not through the insulation yet, but eventually it would have happened. I think the problem is that the beer thingy is so wide that it presses the harness against the frame. I took a 6" piece of heater hose, split it, and taped it on the harness where the frame member is located. It might save me a break down in the future.
Ergie

 

[Philscbx]

If You are going to really isolate any possible wiring harness damage from rubbing on anything, then this is the best way period.

This process takes a little more time and good quality wire ties.
No China Crap. The whole pack I got from HomeDepot is China Junk.
This wasted several hours right from the start, until I noticed they were falling off for no reason.
Put my reading glasses on and sure enough, China got me like a sharp poke in the eye.

On aircraft as a standard when we remanufacture them, it's done the same at any single attachment point.

You need 3 wire ties for each point of attachment.
Never bind harness directly to a frame member.

Use one wire tie on harness - keep it loose.
Use one wire tie at frame or other fixing point - keep it loose.
Now the 3rd wire tie is used to connect the other 2.
It's tucked under the other 2
Snug up the other 2 on the 3rd.
The 3rd one can be left anywhere from snug, to 1 inch diameter.
The larger the better. This 3rd one is now the suspension point.
This keeps the harness flexible, but in no way can make contact to the rigid frame member, or touch other objects.

There are also wire ties with screw eye attachment point for the primary point.

If your into the area often to make modifications, then you only need to cut the 3rd wire tie, and replace it.

Also - there is no limit to the number of ties used at any point.
You can create your own safety factor as you like.

As an optional wire tie on the harness, use the velcro straps.
On any harness, use only enough grip pressure to where it doesn't slide, but doesn't crush either.

>> This 3 point process can be applied at any point, 2 or more points come into contact with anything. Hoses, Vacuum lines, etc.

Provide heat shielding where necessary any where around exhaust. If you can bake bread there, You get the idea.
Although a spot to put canned soup or a baked potato could be handy.

Inspections of aircraft, I have found improper wire tied applications actually wore into the chrome molly engine mount frames of single engine type. Dealing with lives in flight, you will become detailed.

 

[SUPERTUNER]

Sounds like the identical symptoms from my 03 LE from last season. Hope you have better luck......my starter was frozen.....like it was welded internally. $489 later all has been fine ever since.

I could have them rebuilt for about half that price! They come with a 6 month warranty too.

Freddie Klies
www.easterncycleperf.com

 

[buddah]

Thanks Freddie, but I also found a shop in Marquette (65 mi. away) that does that. BUT, I found a used one via the classifieds here. So we'll see how it goes.