Shootout

[yamamarc]

Does anyone know how much the new Hurricane Mach Z ECU will sell for?

I read it cost around 2700$ us

 

[Doc Harley]

Does anyone know how much the new Hurricane Mach Z ECU will sell for?

$4,500 is what I remember seeing. Not sure if that's us or cad?!?!

 

[74Nitro]

I read it cost around 2700$ us

Ouch.
Is that just for one tune, or is that a few maps?

 

[KnappAttack]

$4,500 is what I remember seeing. Not sure if that's us or cad?!?!

$4500 is for the Motec from Whalen, and all Whalens HP figures are from a track dyno, not an instrumented engine dyno. So just a wild guess and no info on BSFC, air or fuel flow any important factors related to building and dialing in tunes like it should be done. So just dialing in fuel on the A/F gauge and hoping its accurate...

Hurricanes ECU is $2700 as of now and in Beta testing. 225 or 230 as I recall on Hurricanes engine dyno.

 

[yamamarc]

Ouch.
Is that just for one tune, or is that a few maps?

I would hope it comes preloaded with maps for that price tag?..
Until the oem ecu is cracked this will be the only option for the hp junkies

 

[F7 Racer]

I found the stock Sidewinder as smooth with great ride and pretty hood handling, but not quick or fast enough for my liking! The MS tunes did change that!
So I would certainly need more from any Doo 900T to make me happy!

Not as quick……it’s the fastest sled 0-60 ft 0-330 and 0-660…….year after year it’s the quickest and fastest everywhere !! Some how guys are disillusioned that 205hp isn’t quick.

These 2 stroke guys crack me up. I drove 2 stokes for 35 years, this 998 turbo is in another league. Until you own one and drive it you will never understand the power.

 

[F7 Racer]

It is what it is....

https://www.facebook.com/655887444516904/posts/4285837064855239

Ouch !!!!!

 

[Motorhead]

Not as quick……it’s the fastest sled 0-60 ft 0-330 and 0-660…….year after year it’s the quickest and fastest everywhere !! Some how guys are disillusioned that 205hp isn’t quick.

These 2 stroke guys crack me up. I drove 2 stokes for 35 years, this 998 turbo is in another league. Until you own one and drive it you will never understand the power.

Yes, my new back then Sidewinder, was so smooth that it was deceptively fast.
After the MS 16 tune, it went from being so smooth through the power band that it was deceptively fast, To, you better respect this throttle a bit after 6K of revs, and that’s more like it for me! Doesn’t mean you have to use it 100% of the time, but yeah, just nice! The stock Sidewinder surprises many once they try it, thinking it’s smoothness isn’t fast!
Of course they are wrong once lined up and eating snow dust during the run. So my point was, a stock Mach Z would not be enough for this old guy! That’s all.

 

[journeyman]

Yes, my new back then Sidewinder, was so smooth that it was deceptively fast.
After the MS 16 tune, it went from being so smooth through the power band that it was deceptively fast, To, you better respect this throttle a bit after 6K of revs, and that’s more like it for me! Doesn’t mean you have to use it 100% of the time, but yeah, just nice! The stock Sidewinder surprises many once they try it, thinking it’s smoothness isn’t fast!
Of course they are wrong once lined up and eating snow dust during the run. So my point was, a stock Mach Z would not be enough for this old guy! That’s all.

Isn’t that the truth. When I bought my 2017 Sidewinder used in 2018 it was bone #*$&@ stock. I went on a trip to the UP with a couple guys with literally no saddle time on it. One fella that came with had a new 850 Assault. Kept telling me he was gonna whip me to 100 mph. We get there and he keeps heckling me. Finally he sees a long straight….right here, let’s run…you over there flag.

I’ll admit he spotted me a good 4 sled lengths out of the gate, then the turbo spooled up and I blew past him bad. We get back to the cabin….man you didn’t just pass me, it was like a 747 blew by me. He asks did you look at the speedo….hell no I was trying to keep it out of the trees. That was the last of that challenge though.

 

[stevewithOCD]

"Deceptively Fast". That's the best explanation of a Stock Sidewinder.
When i first rode mine, i didn't think it was THAT fast, until i realized i was BLOWING away Apexes & 850's. Both top of the food chain sleds.
SMOOOOTH is the word.
I used to laugh at guys that would say "oh ya, wait to we hit the smaller twisties" then i would ride their flap.
My front end STILL looks like it was Sand-Blasted.
Kinda like driving a new 500hp car today compared to a 500hp 60's muscle car.
The new one's can get decent gas mileage, handle great & are dependable every day drivers.
A 500hp 1968 Camaro you drive to car shows, NOT to work.

I think the new 900R is the OPPOSITE from what i'm seeing on the TUBE & personal accounts.
NO top end!
Snappy on bottom & trails with great acceleration then just tops out around 110ish.
I have 2 reports of people NOT liking the shocks on the Mach. Both are thinking of selling them.

110?
This may be a one year sled for me.
On my 600R i always had an excuse on the straightaways.
With 180-200 hp, finishing last would be embarrassing!

Going up Thursday morning.
You'll hear from me maybe Friday.

P.S:
I started looking at Winders for sale.
Then i started looking at parts i need to buy to fix it up.
Then i got a headache.
Then i got mad at my DAD for getting me into this sport that i spend MORE time on this site & the Weather Channel then on my $15,000 sled

 

[max rolph]

LMFAO.... thats exactly what i said to co workers and wife yesterday..." i spend more time on weather network than on the sled"!!! soo true.

 

[Motorhead]

"Deceptively Fast". That's the best explanation of a Stock Sidewinder.
When i first rode mine, i didn't think it was THAT fast, until i realized i was BLOWING away Apexes & 850's. Both top of the food chain sleds.
SMOOOOTH is the word.
I used to laugh at guys that would say "oh ya, wait to we hit the smaller twisties" then i would ride their flap.
My front end STILL looks like it was Sand-Blasted.
Kinda like driving a new 500hp car today compared to a 500hp 60's muscle car.
The new one's can get decent gas mileage, handle great & are dependable every day drivers.
A 500hp 1968 Camaro you drive to car shows, NOT to work.

I think the new 900R is the OPPOSITE from what i'm seeing on the TUBE & personal accounts.
NO top end!
Snappy on bottom & trails with great acceleration then just tops out around 110ish.
I have 2 reports of people NOT liking the shocks on the Mach. Both are thinking of selling them.

110?
This may be a one year sled for me.
On my 600R i always had an excuse on the straightaways.
With 180-200 hp, finishing last would be embarrassing!

Going up Thursday morning.
You'll hear from me maybe Friday.

P.S:
I started looking at Winders for sale.
Then i started looking at parts i need to buy to fix it up.
Then i got a headache.
Then i got mad at my DAD for getting me into this sport that i spend MORE time on this site & the Weather Channel then on my $15,000 sled

It may be a great sled Steve. Just as you said, it may perform very well in the twisties and be a rocket up to a certain point for a stock sled. All without much maintenance which will bode well for many!

I am not knocking it at all and hope that it is a great sled for the many that have purchased one.
From your past posts pertaining to the problems had with your Winders, I know your new Doo will get tested hard in the county once or twice! Enjoy your new sled and keep it out of the trees, they are Hard!

 

[KnappAttack]

Got another call from my buddy last night with the Mack I borrowed my dragy to. He thought his ran OK yesterday morning as it went about 1 MPH faster in 1000 foot than the one on DooQuack DC5 reported to go about 97MPH in a 1000 foot.

They then put the dragy on his nephews 850 Doo out on the same lake in the same spot and ended up super depressed. His nephews 850 ended up quicker by a couple tenths than his Mack to the same 1000 foot distance and was only 1 MPH behind it. He just kept telling me "its not fast and its never gonna be fast". Not a chance it will run with a 998, he's going to keep playing with it to try and get it, but it will down the road, I guarantee it. He claimed he didn't buy it to be the fastest, he knows he's not going to beat the 998's, but he's not happy to get beat by the 850's whatsoever. He knows the Polaris 850's are even quicker then the Doo 850's, and he has a friend that bought one of them. I boggles my mind that the 850 is quicker than the Mack truck.

This isn't looking good for Doo's flagship Mack model...

 

[1nc 2000]

So when the speedo was showing 130mph on the plowed snow covered dirt rd last night with 196 studs in a 1.5 track, how accurate is the sidewinder mph.

 

[lakercr]

Probably would have been 127 gps. I have a garmin mounted above my speedo and look at gps speed all the time. Stock speedo is out about 3 mph at these speeds, assuming good traction, which you have.