Simmons or Yamaha's New Powder Skis (Powder Pros)?

[Frostbite]

I'm in a bit of a dilemna. I still have a set of Simmon's skis on my 03 RX-1 Mountain. I have used them for a couple years. They work ok but I was ready to try something new.
Last season I bought a set of the new Yamaha Powder Skis (they look a lot like SLP Powder Pros). I have them ready to go but our lack of snow last winter left me high and dry.
I will be riding trails (roads) for a while until the snow gets deep enough to venture off the trail.

How does the performance of the Yamaha Powder Skis compare to the Simmon's in trail conditions? How about in powder conditions?

Just for your information: I will be putting on a Holz 41" chrome molly front end and a 11 mm sway bar with the longer sway bar links prior to riding this season. Does this make any difference regarding ski choice?

Thanks

Frosty

 

[Swiss Sledder]

Simmons on the trails are great because you get very little darting from the inverted bottom and double carbide design. Because of their width, they also tend to offer more stability over other skis.

Two Harbors? How about a Betty's Pie!

 

[doo_man]

I have the Doo Precision skis(dual runner too) and then switched to the mountain ski. Predision ski was excellent on trail, and better than the stock ski in the deep snow. I like the Mountain ski in the deep snow, on trail does a good job too but the Precision ski is better if you're on trail more.

 

[Frostbite]

Betty's Pie's! Oh yeah! Yes, I remember the smells coming from that lovely little slice of heaven. Thanks for providing the trip down memory lane.

Skis, what you guys have said is pretty much what I thought. Dual runner for trails and the big wide ones for off trail excursions. I guess the biggest question is how do the powder skis do on the trail? If they are acceptable I may just give them a try (maybe I'll add a little more ski pressure).

Thanks

Frosty

 

[SoCoRX1]

Simmons are awesome on the trails. my mtn ski's dart quite a bit.

Off the trail, the yamaha mtn ski's are the best you can buy. i absolutely love them. EXCELLENT flotation and great sidehilling.

 

[Frostbite]

Thanks! Does anyone else have any experience with both types of skis?

Frosty

 

[SnoWarrior]

Read the post Allen wrote on the Slydog skis. I bought 2 pair of the trail skis....will have to wait for snow to give a report. I put them on myWarrior and my Son's sled.

www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php?t=17420 ... ght=slydog

 

[LoneViper]

I've used my Simmons and think they are great on the trail, off trail in the snow I think they are lacking in the handling.

I've got about 400 miles on my Mtn Vector and the wide skis work good in the powder, but they dart some on the trail. They are really tough in crusted spring snow, real grabby if you will.

Maybe the powder skis with dual runners would be the answer.

 

[Frostbite]

Lone Viper, I asked that very question this summer. I wonder if there is a dual runner skag that will fit the powder skis? Yes, if there is that may very well be the best of both worlds?
If the Yamaha powder ski has the same skag bolt pattern as the SLP powder pros then just maybe they are available?
Hum??
Who has access to both type of skis to see if the skag bolt patterns line up?
I'll try the dual runners if they'll fit!

Frosty

 

[noob]

i wouldn't have anything but simmons. ithink the performance in deep snow, and on the trail are awesome. noob

 

[LoneViper]

I was poking around the Dennis Kirk wish book yeasterday and I believe Woodys makes them, or at least that's what the specs say. I doubt SLP's wear bars will fit. Every body has to be a little different.

 

[Mtnviper]

I have about 2000 miles with Simmons, and about 500 so far with the Yamaha Mtn ski.
Like other's have said, the Simmons are better on the trail. While the Yamaha mtn ski is better off trail. The mtn ski is the best side hilling ski I have ever used.
For what it's worth I sold the Simmon's and kept the Yamaha mtn ski.
Reducing the front suspension spring preload will help reduce darting on the trails with the mtn ski. They are very agressive. The dually runner idea, is interesting. I may have to give them a try when my carbides wear out.

 

[JDKRXW]

Thanks! Does anyone else have any experience with both types of skis?
Frosty

.....not with the brands mentioned so far, but I've got pre-parabolic Cat skies on my Warrior, and they are better in EVERY respect than the stock Yamaha skis. The stock Yamaha saddles fit into the Cat skis without too much trouble.
This was an awesome improvement for cheap.

 

[Climbmax]

Thanks! Does anyone else have any experience with both types of skis?

Frosty

Yup...........I got one set of Simmons blue black to trade for a set of Oem skis if anyone is interested, Tested them heads up same sled same day. The simmons adds 3 inches each side to the stance and steer heavier. IMO. The simmons probably work well on a conventional sled as I have had them on my Viper and liked them...........but prefer the OEM ski on a 4 stroke.

CM

 

[BlgsRX-1mtn]

Thanks! Does anyone else have any experience with both types of skis?

Frosty

Yup...........I got one set of Simmons blue black to trade for a set of Oem skis if anyone is interested, Tested them heads up same sled same day. The simmons adds 3 inches each side to the stance and steer heavier. IMO. The simmons probably work well on a conventional sled as I have had them on my Viper and liked them...........but prefer the OEM ski on a 4 stroke.

CM

Randy,

I thought you just used the skis as a support for the spindles when parked. I never have seen video or a picture of the RX-101 with the skis on the ground other than when it is sitting still.

Jim