Ski Stance

[Mountaintech]

Now the question is how much or how far can you go forward with the geometry you pick and still use stock gyt shocks or stock fox floats without any modifications to them? A little more forward always helps with the width imo. Could give you the feel of a longer flatter sled while using a shorter track

3" forward.

 

[kyleg]

42-43 adjustable with a new spindle bushing would be ideal

X2

 

[ViperTurboPete]

Check out the a arms for MTX's on Mountaintech website. Adjustable camber and caster with 3" forward design. Way cool!

 

[bjowett]

44" w/ Yamaha mountain skis fit in the bed of my 2008 Tundra.

 

[Mountaintech]

44" w/ Yamaha mountain skis fit in the bed of my 2008 Tundra.

Interesting. It looks like most people would prefer 42.5-43". I thought that perhaps 44" would go over well.

 

[fxnytrortxkid]

Mountain tech. It's worth trying at 44... But trailer I use is an inline 14' and between my nytro Rtx an fathers viper Rtx they don't fit great. Wider stance on mine won't fit up as far if at all. But I think a nice 43" +'2 would be nice. Again your testing would be crucial. But food for thought. What about building a new "stronger" bulk head that uses stock arms an puts them in better position maybe with a bit angled forward like the Polaris an Skidoos use to get the +2-3" I think it would solve the weak subframe issue aswell as geometry issues with less band aids than just a arms.

 

[Mountaintech]

Starting building a 43" +3" version. Who's interested?

 

[fxnytrortxkid]

Might be something i would change to over summer. See how they come out an cost.

 

[grizztracks]

What's the +3 going to do for trail performance?

 

[fxnytrortxkid]

It puts skis out in front instead of under your feet, it also will move center of mass back closer to between your feet instead of over the spindles. Should lighten steering, flatten cornering and help with balance. Again it's theory, who knows if the "lever" is long enough to gain these advantages an make them noticeable.

 

[grizztracks]

It puts skis out in front instead of under your feet, it also will move center of mass back closer to between your feet instead of over the spindles. Should lighten steering, flatten cornering and help with balance. Again it's theory, who knows if the "lever" is long enough to gain these advantages an make them noticeable.

Lightening the steering can cause other issues and I don't believe moving the skis forward is going to flatten cornering. Lengthening the stance is going to make it less responsive in the tighter turns. I do believe a wider stance might be beneficial for the trails but I'm not buying then forward stance.

 

[ViperTurboPete]

Grizz, read the reviews or sales pitches for the aftermarket companies who make 3" front ends (Mountaintech, Zbroz, Skinz, etc). They claim improvements all around on the Nytro. I think even that "Race" front end out there has forward spindles to improve handling.

 

[fxnytrortxkid]

The race front end is +2 front end. Weight transfer is what will turn the sled, just putting weight over the skis can have several diff ailments in making them turn. Biggest thing is also moving the mass back between feet more.

 

[Bamboo]

Hey Grizz, have a look at Mr. Sleds post on the Barcode 425 kit in the sled build section. Its a no "sales pitch" review of there kit.

 

[grizztracks]

Grizz, read the reviews or sales pitches for the aftermarket companies who make 3" front ends (Mountaintech, Zbroz, Skinz, etc). They claim improvements all around on the Nytro. I think even that "Race" front end out there has forward spindles to improve handling.

Most of the kits are designed for off trail. Zbroz offers a 43" but only with +1 forward position. Zbroz didn't go to +3 forward with their wider arms so I'm assuming after testing on trail sleds they determined that a lesser forward stance was optimal which I tend to believe also.

They all claim to improve performance but from past experience I don't believe what they claim . I only believe what works for me.