Sled allocation 24

[rb2001srx700]

Here is an Idean lets all deal with what we have and don't buy any new sleds for the next 3 years. I wonder what that would do for the consumers.... There has to be enough sleds out there for everyone. Keep what you have up to par, ( serviced ) I would love a new sled as well, but I don't need one.
I agree with the power surge idea. That way you should be able to get what you wanted. But at 23k and a possible short season ( New York ). One more thing... UPDATE YOUR DASH........PLEASE....... Include things like GPS, Color. For 23K I would think it would be an option.

Okay I'm done with little rant.. Have a great day Go YAMAHA......or YAMACAT...

 

[earthling]

I noticed a marketing strategy from yamacat back in 2017, and spoke about it back then but not many agreed, but then came Covid and the problems it caused to manufacturers, suppliers and the consumer!

This situation started out with the Spring Surge LE models, which could only be bought through the Spring Surge program. It made complete sense to me back then, (Supply and Demand tactics), whereas I went through this same marketing strategy years ago with a Harley Davidson bike that I purchased. Back then for a while the price of an HD went through the roof because of so few of them being built! soon after I bought, HD started to double down on how many were being built, thus they overloaded the market and both used and new bike prices fell hard.

Will this same strategy backfire for Yamacat?
As of now used 998 Yamacat prices are holding their own quite well! But buying some new models like the SRX, are way out of control!

Bad for consumers but ideal foe manufacturers!

Volume in manufacturing greases the wheels of the business and it gives you leverage in purchasing parts and capacity. Costs in manufacturing are relative to volume of finished goods produced, meaning, the more you can buy, the more negotiating power you have over your suppliers. If you want to make more money, you have to buy more parts, make more end product, and sell more volume because the fixed assets in your business (manufacturing lines, buildings, overheads) don't go away with lower volumes and raising the prices by even 25% won't make up for the inefficiency created by running low volumes.

Keeping the lines busy gives you flexibility, it allows you to hang on to valuable talent, and it allows you to go after market share. For the tactic of reducing inventory to drive prices up artificially to work you must A. create the tension (want/need/desire) in the market through marketing and B. be in a strong market willing and able to purchase at those prices. Yamaha didn't intentionally orchestrate limited inventories to drive prices up, costs are rising across the board in all sectors and I doubt this is a windfall for Yamaha. Look at it the other way, they (really meaning Cat) cannot deliver what they have already sold, that is not the goal of a company trying to artificially drive prices up, that is a signal that there are real manufacturing capacity issues.

 

[SideHogger]

Here is an Idean lets all deal with what we have and don't buy any new sleds for the next 3 years. I wonder what that would do for the consumers.... There has to be enough sleds out there for everyone. Keep what you have up to par, ( serviced ) I would love a new sled as well, but I don't need one.
I agree with the power surge idea. That way you should be able to get what you wanted. But at 23k and a possible short season ( New York ). One more thing... UPDATE YOUR DASH........PLEASE....... Include things like GPS, Color. For 23K I would think it would be an option.

Okay I'm done with little rant.. Have a great day Go YAMAHA......or YAMACAT...

Worded like a true UPSTATER!!!

 

[RAMSOMAIR]

We just need to stop buying sleds for 1 season and you will see the prices come down.

 

[Trailleader]

We should stop paying taxes too if that’s the case because then they wouldn’t charge us
Lol
Everything sold out on the cat side
I think Tcat lasted 15 min

 

[74Nitro]

Does anyone have build numbers?

Selling out quickly means nothing if they're limiting and/or reducing production.

If they've increased production AND still sold out then that would be great.

 

[Trailleader]

Haven’t but know may decent size cat dealer was only allocated 4 catalysts

 

[74Nitro]

Haven’t but know may decent size cat dealer was only allocated 4 catalysts

Geez, only four.

 

[Trailleader]

That’s what they said
Could’ve sold 30

 

[number1kyster]

The timing of the Catalyst rollout has me wondering if this sled was rushed to the market. I know they have said they have been working on it for years, but the fact remains that the media only recently rode it for the first time. It is only available in a 600.

Perhaps the limited numbers are to reduce the bad press from potential issues that the first year test mules may have.

The 2012 Procross rollout had 4 or 5 engine choices and issues galore. They received a lot of bad press from that.

 

[Richard Hodgins]

Volume in manufacturing greases the wheels of the business and it gives you leverage in purchasing parts and capacity. Costs in manufacturing are relative to volume of finished goods produced, meaning, the more you can buy, the more negotiating power you have over your suppliers. If you want to make more money, you have to buy more parts, make more end product, and sell more volume because the fixed assets in your business (manufacturing lines, buildings, overheads) don't go away with lower volumes and raising the prices by even 25% won't make up for the inefficiency created by running low volumes.

Keeping the lines busy gives you flexibility, it allows you to hang on to valuable talent, and it allows you to go after market share. For the tactic of reducing inventory to drive prices up artificially to work you must A. create the tension (want/need/desire) in the market through marketing and B. be in a strong market willing and able to purchase at those prices. Yamaha didn't intentionally orchestrate limited inventories to drive prices up, costs are rising across the board in all sectors and I doubt this is a windfall for Yamaha. Look at it the other way, they (really meaning Cat) cannot deliver what they have already sold, that is not the goal of a company trying to artificially drive prices up, that is a signal that there are real manufacturing capacity issues.

Sorry to hijack, I was looking at that ad you posted, can't believe the mileage on that 2017, like 37,000kms? I sure hope EVERYTHING has been redone on that sled (shocks, bushings, bearings, loose rivets etc). Price was right!

 

[Viper_Dean]

The sad part is that this is how production for nearly everything minus commodities will go from now. Trucks, boats, toys, etc. although I do think cars will likely change a little since people constantly need to commute. Nobody will sign up to overproduce things anymore with hold overs and such, and I doubt that it will ever happen with sleds. I'm surprised that 100% of sleds are not sold to order only these days. Zero sleds sent to a dealer floor, only direct to consumer.

 

[Stubbs]

A scenario very close to this is likely coming in the not too distant future…

 

[Motorhead]

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Volume in manufacturing greases the wheels of the business and it gives you leverage in purchasing parts and capacity. Costs in manufacturing are relative to volume of finished goods produced, meaning, the more you can buy, the more negotiating power you have over your suppliers. If you want to make more money, you have to buy more parts, make more end product, and sell more volume because the fixed assets in your business (manufacturing lines, buildings, overheads) don't go away with lower volumes and raising the prices by even 25% won't make up for the inefficiency created by running low volumes.

Keeping the lines busy gives you flexibility, it allows you to hang on to valuable talent, and it allows you to go after market share. For the tactic of reducing inventory to drive prices up artificially to work you must A. create the tension (want/need/desire) in the market through marketing and B. be in a strong market willing and able to purchase at those prices. Yamaha didn't intentionally orchestrate limited inventories to drive prices up, costs are rising across the board in all sectors and I doubt this is a windfall for Yamaha. Look at it the other way, they (really meaning Cat) cannot deliver what they have already sold, that is not the goal of a company trying to artificially drive prices up, that is a signal that there are real manufacturing capacity issues.

Do not know the specifics on this sled on your attachment, but at that price (Canadian), if it’s too good to be true, it’s too good to be true!

 

[RAMSOMAIR]

Its from Quebec so likely 36,000kms