slp anti-wear pads ?

[rough rider]

Has anyone bolted these to your closed windowed track and seen any improvement in hyfax wear or less drag, just looking for some imput before going through work of installing them, or is it better to get oversized idler wheels?

 

[tcona-AGT]

http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php? ... t=slp+pads

Plus over sized wheels.

 

[Mighty]

They work great! I don't install them because of hyfax wear but because they reduce drag dramatically. In warmer conditions the hyfax really sticks when it hits those rubber patches. Less hyfax wear is a bonus.

 

[maddogjeff]

 

[Him]

I use ordinary 6mm elevatorbolts (I think it's called).
36 of them with lockingnut and washer cost me about $5 in an local hardwarestore.

6000km with the same ones (and the same hyfax) and still going strong.

 

[Metallicat]

I was thinking exactly the same thing. Can you post a pic of the bolt? I am not sure what an elevator bolt looks like. Are they flat on top or radiused?

I use ordinary 6mm elevatorbolts (I think it's called).
36 of them with lockingnut and washer cost me about $5 in an local hardwarestore.

6000km with the same ones (and the same hyfax) and still going strong.

 

[Mighty]

Good question, are the tops of elevator bolts flat like the slp pads?

 

[Mighty]

This might be another use for worn out studs. Install them in the closed windows and cut off any stud past the nut for clearance. The base of the stud will be much thicker than the SLP pads and flat
Anyone have any used studs I can have? I'll pay shipping Stainless prefered.............

 

[Him]

I was thinking exactly the same thing. Can you post a pic of the bolt? I am not sure what an elevator bolt looks like. Are they flat on top or radiused?

Here are 2 pictures I found on the net so you can see it from both sides. I'm not sure they called elevatorbolts but that name has crossed my mind.

 

[Metallicat]

Wow, that is exactly the bolt style that I had in mind. Did you notice any additional track noise or vibration with them installed? How much higher do they sit compared to the SLP pads?

Here are 2 pictures I found on the net so you can see it from both sides. I'm not sure they called elevatorbolts but that name has crossed my mind.

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[QCRider]

Guys, it's not like the SLP pads are expensive, and they are absolutely flat on top, not rounded like a carriage bolt.

 

[Him]

Wow, that is exactly the bolt style that I had in mind. Did you notice any additional track noise or vibration with them installed? How much higher do they sit compared to the SLP pads?

No additional tracknoise wse, no vibration either since the bolts is evenly distributet around the track. I can without any effort push the sled forward and with the engine running it's almost as it can go forward only by the friction inside the belt from the driveshaft. The sled goes faster with a given rpm after the fix, more MPG. Top speed I dunno, to much variables.

When I change the track I will get a fully clipped one, but this is the thing until then.

I haven't the SLP to compare against but they are about 1-1.5 mm above the inside of the track. I have checked the hyfax several times and it is no significant marks in the middle of the hyfax which I tought it would be.

They are round at the top when they are new (and the SLP is a little bit less round), after a while they get a little flat top. And still after 6000km they have that same little flat top, but now it's a little bit bigger flat top. My guess is that they will hold another 6000km.

And yes, I know that the SLP isn't expensive but instead of order those and wait how long for the delivery (I'm in Sweden so...) I found it better to run of to the local hardwarestore and grab a bag of them for 10% of the price for SLP.

Carriage bolts, that was the name, wonder where I got the elevator bolts from.

 

[Sasquatch]

4. Change out the Yamaha idler wheels and put on oversized Poo/Doo wheels. You have to machine the mounts because of different sized bearings but this works and is a long term fix.

I have Poo wheels on my Warrior. No machining involved. Bearings have the same outer diameter. Bolt on deal.

I put in the SLP bolts later on and the sled would roll downhill after that. Before it would hold itself on a hill stuck on the closed windows.

 

[maddogjeff]

Here are a couple of pics of the worst pads after 3700 miles. They do wear but 3700 miles is pretty good. The worst wear point on the hyfaxes is down to 14.7mm, they start at 18.5 and the wear limit is 10.5, so I'm 50% down. Pads and hyfaxes were both new at the beginning of '06 season. Definitely worth the piece of mind not worrying about the hyfax. It took 2 hours, a couple of cocktails and a couple of smokes to replace them.

 

[cdsgraphic]

Hey guys, if you want to do this yourself, I would think the elevator bolts would be a much better idea than using carriage bolts. The elevator bolts have a flat (actually slightly concave) large head.

Here's a link to some Elevator Bolts (not sure of the length needed, but maybe get longer ones and just cut the excess off), HERE

And here's some locking Jam Nuts (low profile nuts), HERE

Need some washers and your all set.

I have never done this or used slp's product. But does it hurt anything to drill thru that area of the track? Isn't there a large enforcing rib of fiberglass or something running thru that areas?

Trevor