Undecided,
I used a roto zip tool, the kind used by drywallers to cut around boxes when they hang wallboard. I cut the holes out square the same as the open windows. As far as the unsupported notion goes, I believe the fiberglass bar that runs between the windows is what provides the strength. The steel clips I did not put in place further reduce stiction, but add weight. I have the tools to install these, but chose not to. I see no wear issues. I'll certainly tell everyone if that changes. The mountain guys are actually drilling out the center of the track as well. It reduces weight for them and improves hyfax lubrication. I bet that will be OEM before long. Probably Arctic Crap, they seem to stick their neck out the fastest.
I used a roto zip tool, the kind used by drywallers to cut around boxes when they hang wallboard. I cut the holes out square the same as the open windows. As far as the unsupported notion goes, I believe the fiberglass bar that runs between the windows is what provides the strength. The steel clips I did not put in place further reduce stiction, but add weight. I have the tools to install these, but chose not to. I see no wear issues. I'll certainly tell everyone if that changes. The mountain guys are actually drilling out the center of the track as well. It reduces weight for them and improves hyfax lubrication. I bet that will be OEM before long. Probably Arctic Crap, they seem to stick their neck out the fastest.
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undecided said:
1/4" to install the SLP anti-wear pads. The guy drilling the larger 1" hole was basically just doing it instead of cutting out the window. He wasn't using the SLP pads
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I just put in SLP pads along with a set of Hiperfax last night.I'll try out the sled today and get back to let you know how they both work.Had that sticky feeling when slowing down in all but the best of conditions,lotsa wear,track noise etc.... Seemed to roll smoother and quieter on stand when aligning track. T.R.
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I used a 1 1/8" hole saw to cut holes in my closed windows. 500 miles and no issues. Rolls very easy know, where in the past it would drag. Less wieght, no cost! 
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RedRX1 said:
SkiDoo already offered this on their X-model summits this year. 2-holes per pitch.
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Oak Hill said:I used a 1 1/8" hole saw to cut holes in my closed windows. 500 miles and no issues. Rolls very easy know, where in the past it would drag. Less wieght, no cost!
Did you make a template something to make sure you hit the center of the cutout? Why 1.125 vs 1.000 or 1.250" Did you use a regular holesaw, or one that's like a track drilling tool thats 1.125 dia? Reason I ask about the type of saw is that when you drill the track for studs, you want to burn the cords and rubber a bit. I'll assume that there's no cords in the cutout area?
THanks Oakhill
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Undecided- I used a 1 1/8" hole saw, no template. After I cut the holes, I used a propane torch to melt the cords. 500 miles and no problems.
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The engineer I talked to at Camoplast said just use 1" hole saw , no need to do anything else.
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Does anybody have results yet on using the antiwear pads? My last set of hyfax only lasted 98 miles. I need to do something fast!
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Not enought miles to tell about wear yet bluecheese. !00 miles yesterday and SLP pads and Hiperfax seemed great. Rode on two inches of powder all day so lube was good anyway.Track seemed to roll freely moreso than before.Tracknoise was less than 1/2 of what it was ,but lotsa guys said new sliders would do that by lessening pressure from wheels.I'm very happy with the results,lets hope they last.
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Haven't had any probs with hyfax wear on my 05 Venture TF.
Have had no/some snow all autumn until christmas.
My idea is this.
The less clipped holes, the more snow stay "inside" the track/rear skid... despite more amount of rubber
More holes and more clips just put in more weight.. And the work and the cost then...
Leave it like it is.
The wear stops after some miles.
Just break the hyfaxes gently in. Don't ride hard and with little/no snow the first long trip.
Otherwise.
It your up to changing to a fully clipped track and olso putting in new "max-grip" sprokets. That to "support" the power out of your MCXpress turbo kit... Then your talking. with
Have had no/some snow all autumn until christmas.
My idea is this.
The less clipped holes, the more snow stay "inside" the track/rear skid... despite more amount of rubber
More holes and more clips just put in more weight.. And the work and the cost then...
Leave it like it is.
The wear stops after some miles.
Just break the hyfaxes gently in. Don't ride hard and with little/no snow the first long trip.
Otherwise.
It your up to changing to a fully clipped track and olso putting in new "max-grip" sprokets. That to "support" the power out of your MCXpress turbo kit... Then your talking. with
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I just put the pads on my two RS Ventures & RX1 last week. One sled isn't bad to install them on, but doing three took me all morning to install. Since we don't have enough snow to go riding yet, I have no results to post.
I will tell you this about riding them last year; When riding down trails, we constantly had to keep going off riding on the shoulder to put some snow in the track & to get the temp light off. This is something we NEVER had to do with the old '99 & '01 Ventures. As a result, the original slides needed to be replaced with only 500 miles on them. I had the dealer install rear coolers i& graphite slides last spring. I put on a set of marginal wheels pretty much where Hondo put his. We'll see what happens this season......if we ever get some friggin snow!!!!
I will tell you this about riding them last year; When riding down trails, we constantly had to keep going off riding on the shoulder to put some snow in the track & to get the temp light off. This is something we NEVER had to do with the old '99 & '01 Ventures. As a result, the original slides needed to be replaced with only 500 miles on them. I had the dealer install rear coolers i& graphite slides last spring. I put on a set of marginal wheels pretty much where Hondo put his. We'll see what happens this season......if we ever get some friggin snow!!!!
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I ordered some pads this week and just received them. I noticed that there aren't locknuts with them, just regular nuts. Has anyone had troubles with them coming loose? Or are you supposed to put thread lock on the nuts? Any advice would be appreciated.
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After checking into both ways I decided to fully clip the track. I think in the long run it will result in a better Job. It cost about the same. maybe a little more work to clip the track.with a clip you are getting the full contact. I think either way would be a big improvement over the stock track.
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Any further reports on remedies tryed ? I have to try something.
At 514 & 510 miles our two 06 Rages have the hyfax half worn , with plastic stuck to the track in closed window area and the clips. Hyfax wear is mostly between the rear set of front outside idlers and the rear set of inside idlers.
From memory it seems to me that tracks on my previous two 02 600 Classics with M-10 [sold] had a rectanglar recess a few thou. deep where the 3rd window is closed, on the inside the track which helped carry snow between the track and hyfax. Some what like the recess on the outside track in the picture on page 1. Changed the hyfax on these machines at 5000 miles[in off season], sure they would have made it another 2000 miles.
If I'm correct then our hyfax probems could be from a design failure by Camoplast.
If any one has a chance, check a Polaris with the 3rd window closed to see if my memory is correct.
At 514 & 510 miles our two 06 Rages have the hyfax half worn , with plastic stuck to the track in closed window area and the clips. Hyfax wear is mostly between the rear set of front outside idlers and the rear set of inside idlers.
From memory it seems to me that tracks on my previous two 02 600 Classics with M-10 [sold] had a rectanglar recess a few thou. deep where the 3rd window is closed, on the inside the track which helped carry snow between the track and hyfax. Some what like the recess on the outside track in the picture on page 1. Changed the hyfax on these machines at 5000 miles[in off season], sure they would have made it another 2000 miles.
If I'm correct then our hyfax probems could be from a design failure by Camoplast.
If any one has a chance, check a Polaris with the 3rd window closed to see if my memory is correct.
