Isthatahemi
Expert
gerard143 said:
Not all sleds, my riding buddies newer machines never leave them stranded. Sometimes they have issues, but nothing like me! I have friends with other brands (other Yamaha's too), and they've got 6000 miles with nothing more than the basic maintenence. There was NO R&D done on these machines.
I guess coming from offroad dirt sports the bushings doesnt bother me as much since it is real common to replace bushings mid year if you ride alot.When I think back on those 2000mi they were some of the funnest snowmobiling I ever had.Everything made can be made better.THere is always compromise.Ideas change over what is best all the time.Yamaha is new to a suspension that really works.As long as they stick behind most of thier issues NO WAY I AM SELLING!
gerard143
Pro
don't get me wrong, i'd ride nothing but a yammie and it is a killer sled when things arent breaking. i realize they are new to big bump sleds and i keep that in the back of my mind and feel with time they will pan out the issues, however i've never had to replace a-arm bushings on a sled yet in my life. let alone at 8,000 nevermind 2,000.
what bothers me is its 2008. i mean come on yamaha. things like brake light switch on mine corroding because there too cheap to put a tiny bit of grease in there.... what were they thinking? exhaust pipe welds breaking due to cheap welds, designing the rear susp front arm shaft a hair to narrow so you can never draw it up against the tunnel causing the bolts to come lose as in my case, cheap suspension links...
all in all u gotta admit either there getting a little too carried away cheapening parts up to save money or the engineering isn't quite as good as it should be for a company thats got what, 40 years of making sleds behind them to know what works and what doesnt.
1985 yamaha srv, a million miles on it, things light brake light switches still work.
2001 sxr million miles on it, no suspensions breaking, no a-arm bushings shittin the bed.
polaris indys i used to own never had suspensions breaking on me, no a-arm bushing issues, brake light switches always worked. although my rxl's motor blew up constantly because no one but yamaha could make a 3 cylinder 2 stroke that didnt blow up.
you know what im saying? i know u all gotta agree a little here.
owh and for gods sake..... ever since they came out with an a-arm suspension on yamaha's they dart terrible and its fixed easily with shimming the bumper. you think maybe by 2025 yamaha will get a clue and mold the rubber differently to take some pressure off the front of the carbide. i mean there is no way they don't about these issues. yet lets keep making our sleds so they dart to the point its dangerous.
what bothers me is its 2008. i mean come on yamaha. things like brake light switch on mine corroding because there too cheap to put a tiny bit of grease in there.... what were they thinking? exhaust pipe welds breaking due to cheap welds, designing the rear susp front arm shaft a hair to narrow so you can never draw it up against the tunnel causing the bolts to come lose as in my case, cheap suspension links...
all in all u gotta admit either there getting a little too carried away cheapening parts up to save money or the engineering isn't quite as good as it should be for a company thats got what, 40 years of making sleds behind them to know what works and what doesnt.
1985 yamaha srv, a million miles on it, things light brake light switches still work.
2001 sxr million miles on it, no suspensions breaking, no a-arm bushings shittin the bed.
polaris indys i used to own never had suspensions breaking on me, no a-arm bushing issues, brake light switches always worked. although my rxl's motor blew up constantly because no one but yamaha could make a 3 cylinder 2 stroke that didnt blow up.
you know what im saying? i know u all gotta agree a little here.
owh and for gods sake..... ever since they came out with an a-arm suspension on yamaha's they dart terrible and its fixed easily with shimming the bumper. you think maybe by 2025 yamaha will get a clue and mold the rubber differently to take some pressure off the front of the carbide. i mean there is no way they don't about these issues. yet lets keep making our sleds so they dart to the point its dangerous.
cannondale27 said:
osceolacabin
Pro
gerard143 said:
Mentioned this wear on the skegs to them yesterday, guess what response I was given? "That's the first we've heard about this"...
I will not purchase another Yamaha at this moment. I love the Phazer to death, wouldn't have spent half the time working to fix these problems with any other snowmobile. But it's old checking it after every ride and wasting my time calling the "product specialist" that Monday. Not sure what I'm going to do right now, wish I could count on them to fix all the issues...but I am not going to hold my breath.
Isthatahemi
Expert
I think the feigned ignorance is ridiculous! I guess if they pretend it's isolated incidents, the litany of problems won't hurt sales.
gerard143
Pro
the people really to talk to are the engineers... someone needs to get a phone number to some of the engineers responsible for designing there snowmobile lineup... whether most of the design occurs in the u.s. of overseas who knows.
but theres no way they havent read the messages boards at times. im sure they know about most of the issues.
but theres no way they havent read the messages boards at times. im sure they know about most of the issues.
You guys all make sense.I agree.Have not recommended any other people buy a 07 Phazer recently.Dont think most would be able to handle the commitment.I think that says it all.
Isthatahemi
Expert
Funny story...When my Phazer was in the shop last time, the squeeking drove the maechanic nuts on the test ride, so he lubed the whole front end! He said a fair amount of slop is normal, and with all the pivots on the front end, a certain amount of play is perfectly normal. Liability being what it is these days, I don't think he said that lightly.
I checked out a new one and yes there is a little play but nothing like I had.
Also noticed left side while sitting on sled was Bone dry.Dust in it.Right side still had some lube.It was way better than left for slop.I cant figure out why one side was dry.Maybe someone at factory forgot to lube it?
Also noticed left side while sitting on sled was Bone dry.Dust in it.Right side still had some lube.It was way better than left for slop.I cant figure out why one side was dry.Maybe someone at factory forgot to lube it?
rcolsen
Newbie
Why take it apart use a neddle bearing grease zert - auto parts store for about $2.00. Works great for puting grease in tight spots or ball joints...
So your saying drill a small hole in arm for needle?
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