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Don, like your avatar of Mike Trapp, just saw him in Minocqua getting ready to pour some concrete. Neighbor was talking to him and had no idea who he was. Told him he had just met a LEGEND.I'm not sure if this has been posted previously or not...
https://snowgoer.com/news/first-impression-best-handling-sidewinder-srx-ever/28584/
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Read down that article some and you’ll see them complaining about the clunky and cumbersome reverse lever..... that’s what got us the push button reverse chaincase...... clunky and cumbersome looks a lot more attractive than broken and stranded, ruined trips, which is what we got now.
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I actually liked the tuners on the Delta box chassis---Pro-Cross nope
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I actually liked the tuners on the Delta box chassis---Pro-Cross nope
I totally agree the tuners work great on the DB chassis!
Have not rode enough on the procross to have a good opinion. But it sounds like most people hate them.
Gunna try our new sidewinder with snow trackers. If they dont work out my dads vector will be getting the tuners. I know that sled will trail ride worlds better with them!
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I really look forward to being able to give them a fair shake. The tuners worked incredibly well on the old Apex, but obviously not on today's chassis. I ran C&As on the Winder for a short period of time and couldn't get them off fast enough, I HATED them. They went where you wanted them to, but they took far too much effort to steer. It was to the point I didn't even want to ride. Settled on Mohawks for both winder and the viper and I couldn't be happier. I will give the new skis a go, and I still have a set of mohawks sitting on the shelf that will be standing at the ready for comparisons sake...
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I really look forward to being able to give them a fair shake. The tuners worked incredibly well on the old Apex, but obviously not on today's chassis. I ran C&As on the Winder for a short period of time and couldn't get them off fast enough, I HATED them. They went where you wanted them to, but they took far too much effort to steer. It was to the point I didn't even want to ride. Settled on Mohawks for both winder and the viper and I couldn't be happier. I will give the new skis a go, and I still have a set of mohawks sitting on the shelf that will be standing at the ready for comparisons sake...
C&A’s aren’t bad, you need to remove ski pressure, then they are much easier to steer. C&A’s are the only skis I know of that you can unload the front end enough to get the rear end of the procross loose with 250 studs on hardpack.
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I definitely tried that, spent two full weekends playing with the suspension settings and never got them loose enough. Suspension settings are equally as important as the skis are!
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I definitely tried that, spent two full weekends playing with the suspension settings and never got them loose enough. Suspension settings are equally as important as the skis are!
You really need to upgrade to a stiffer center skid spring for it too work well.
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M2c , its funny how many slam the tuner3 skis and after reading all the negative comments about them i almost pulled them before giving them a try, when we get the sloppy snow conditions and they start to push i simply switch from soft to firm and bingo i can steer again, once it tightens up a few hours later the darn thing is on rails again with minimal steering effort not to mention no darting the biggest draw back from aggressive single keel skisNo Yamaha doesn’t usually get it right when it comes to skies.
I haven’t believed a thing Snow Goer has said in years, it’s a marketing magazine. I would bet someone could dig up an old article saying how great these new Yamaha Tuner skies were when they came out!
Yamaha will never have a decent ski imo because they cater to the wimpy cry babies who worry about steering effort and darting. News flash, you can’t have slot car steering without some steering resistance.
They should IMO offer up ski choices to new buyers. How hard would it be for the dealer to have different skies in stock and upon purchase install the model the consumer wants? Not hard at all, but instead they will just market a ski that’s the best for all conditions, all riders.....that ain’t never gonna happen.
Smart money will wait until ACTUAL consumers use the product and weight in on its performance or lack there of.
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C&As with slim jims are awesome.
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M2c , its funny how many slam the tuner3 skis and after reading all the negative comments about them i almost pulled them before giving them a try, when we get the sloppy snow conditions and they start to push i simply switch from soft to firm and bingo i can steer again, once it tightens up a few hours later the darn thing is on rails again with minimal steering effort not to mention no darting the biggest draw back from aggressive single keel skis
Simple fact is, with a lot of studs on hard pack, they will not work period.
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-C&A XPT's with slim jims kind of do it all. Easy steering effort, cover most snow conditions, predictable push in the corner - they never hang you out to dry. Hard on fuel though. Maneuvering through town - the skis are well off the road and preserve wear and tear on the ski itself. Also can turn tight circles on asphalt.
-Have tried them with 6" shapers - massive steering effort. But they turned real crisp. there was significant loading of the outside ski and occasionally and ski would high side. Not good. I am not sure if you could tighten the centre shock up enough to take this out of the ski.
-Tried the Bergstrom triple point - not a bad combo when set up properly (shimming and playing with centre shock etc). Steering effort was light, handled all snow conditions, in fact it liked some snow conditions better than the slim jims (ie: freshly groomed fluffy snow). Way better on fuel.
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-Have tried them with 6" shapers - massive steering effort. But they turned real crisp. there was significant loading of the outside ski and occasionally and ski would high side. Not good. I am not sure if you could tighten the centre shock up enough to take this out of the ski.
-Tried the Bergstrom triple point - not a bad combo when set up properly (shimming and playing with centre shock etc). Steering effort was light, handled all snow conditions, in fact it liked some snow conditions better than the slim jims (ie: freshly groomed fluffy snow). Way better on fuel.
Just my observations.
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Curves with snotrackers! I was going to go with BOP power steering kit but once the snotrackers were on, no need. They just plain work .
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