YAMAHAMMER101
Extreme
I was just wondering if anyone has used Sta-bil. I have been using the Briggs and Straton stabilzer. But i went to the store and all they had was Sta-bil. So i bought that. Just wondering the goods and the bads. I once bought motomaster brand from Canadian Tire and that stuff was junk. It froze in the bottle in the trunk of my car before i got home and when it unthawed it was seperated the red colouring on the top and clear liquid on the bottom. So i returned it. Any input would greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.
NytroFIB
Extreme
I always thought that Stabil gums up carbs and jets.
I would rather run carbs dry.
JMO.
I would rather run carbs dry.
JMO.
sobfrogg
TY 4 Stroke Guru
In the past we have had problems w/ the Sta-bil. This was in small engines. I run the parts department for a power equipment dealership.
We found that we had fewer problems when draining the fuel instead of stabilizing it. If you are going to stabilize the fuel I think SeaFoam works the best. I have been using that on my boats for years and never had a problem.
One of the reason we find it is better to drain the fuel in small engines is that the jets and passages in the carb are smaller. They plog up easier. Also smaller amunts of fuel go bad quicker than larger amounts of fuel.
Hope this helps
We found that we had fewer problems when draining the fuel instead of stabilizing it. If you are going to stabilize the fuel I think SeaFoam works the best. I have been using that on my boats for years and never had a problem.
One of the reason we find it is better to drain the fuel in small engines is that the jets and passages in the carb are smaller. They plog up easier. Also smaller amunts of fuel go bad quicker than larger amounts of fuel.
Hope this helps
thinksnow
Expert
Stabil
I have used both Seafoam and Sta-bil. I really haven't noticed a difference. I guess using one of them is better than none at all.
I have used both Seafoam and Sta-bil. I really haven't noticed a difference. I guess using one of them is better than none at all.
Sled Dog
Lifetime Member
More air touching the surface of the fuel will cause fuel to deteriorate more than less such as having the tank full right to the rim. I have used both with no problems with the tank full to the rim for storage.
craze1cars
VIP Member
I've use'd Sta-bil for many years with no problems in boats, small engines, snowmobiles, and muscle cars. I never bother to top the tanks off, but I have the benefit of temp and humidity controlled storage year round for all my toys, which makes a HUGE difference in controlling the expansion/contraction/temp fluctuations that can increase the risk of condensation and speed of fuel breakdown. I also take the time to tightly plug any fuel tank vents during storage to reduce the fuel's exposure to air. I also keep nothing (except the cars) much longer than 2 to 3 years...so I rarely have the opportunity to test this method over the long-term.
But I will second the recommendation that draining the fuel is a better option than stabilizing, though more labor intensive.
But I will second the recommendation that draining the fuel is a better option than stabilizing, though more labor intensive.
YAMAHAMMER101
Extreme
Thanks for the input guys. When ever i store the sleds i leave about a gallon of gas in the tank and treat that with staibilzer. Then when i start riding i fill the sled with fresh fuel and ride it easy for the first day. But with this winter being shitty. Last week i drained that gallon of treated gas out and retreated another gallon and refired the sleds. Becuase normally its only from march to november that they are stored. But this year its been march to january. Thanks again for the input.
4Fighter
TY 4 Stroke God
Re: Stabil
Same here, and I add Sea-Foam to the oil tank and run it for a few minutes before laying it up too.
I've been follow this regimend since day 1, and at the start of the 3rd season, we pulled the bowls off to add the ECP and my buddy said:
"Whatever you are doing to this thing in the spring - keep doing it."
The bowls were spotless.
thinksnow said:I have used both Seafoam and Sta-bil. I really haven't noticed a difference. I guess using one of them is better than none at all.
Same here, and I add Sea-Foam to the oil tank and run it for a few minutes before laying it up too.
I've been follow this regimend since day 1, and at the start of the 3rd season, we pulled the bowls off to add the ECP and my buddy said:
"Whatever you are doing to this thing in the spring - keep doing it."
The bowls were spotless.
Reverse
Extreme
Yamaha and Honda both make a fuel stabilizer that also contains a conditioner. I think that the conditioner is as important as the stabilizer; have used both (whatever is available at the time) in my boat engines, alot of equipment with small engines and my sleds; excellent products; no problems to date over quite a few years.
mdkuni
TY 4 Stroke Guru
I used to use Stabil but no longer do so. Sea Foam is the way to go in my opinion. Here is some info from an email I received from Sea Foam when questioning their product.
"1. The "Stabile" method (separate fuel from air with a coating of their product) is used in many available products, and works well for a short period of time in a situation where the fuel would not get"sloshed" around, breaking the seal and allowing rapid deterioration of the fuel. No length of time guarantee, due to no control over "outside forces'.
2. The Sea Foam method. Pretty unique because Sea Foam adds volatility to the fuel and slows down the rate at which the fuel deteriorates, enabling Sea Foam to guarantee stability for up to 2 years when Sea Foam is applied properly and the fuel is stored in approved tanks/containers. Sea Foam is also a fuel system cleaner, moisture drier, lubricant and carbon cleaner, where other products are not. "
"1. The "Stabile" method (separate fuel from air with a coating of their product) is used in many available products, and works well for a short period of time in a situation where the fuel would not get"sloshed" around, breaking the seal and allowing rapid deterioration of the fuel. No length of time guarantee, due to no control over "outside forces'.
2. The Sea Foam method. Pretty unique because Sea Foam adds volatility to the fuel and slows down the rate at which the fuel deteriorates, enabling Sea Foam to guarantee stability for up to 2 years when Sea Foam is applied properly and the fuel is stored in approved tanks/containers. Sea Foam is also a fuel system cleaner, moisture drier, lubricant and carbon cleaner, where other products are not. "
sobfrogg
TY 4 Stroke Guru
The Honda product is Stabil
We sell it at the store.. Honda stuff that is
We sell it at the store.. Honda stuff that is
Genesis Extreme
Extreme
Seafoam all the way.
Sled Dog
Lifetime Member
Why are we talking stabilizing fuel in January? Yea I know why this winter sucks for most of North America.
big_ry_ry
Expert
stabil
I use sta-bil in my sled and motorcyle, to be honest I have never hear of sea foam untill this website, sound like a better product.
Where can you buy it, since i have never shopped for it?
I use sta-bil in my sled and motorcyle, to be honest I have never hear of sea foam untill this website, sound like a better product.
Where can you buy it, since i have never shopped for it?
Oak Hill
VIP Member
I have used stabil in the past with mixed results and went back to draining carbs until I discovered Sea Foam. This stuff works like nothing I have ever used befor. Removes carbon, cleans carbs and is a fuel drier. I use it in every tank of gas for my sled and use it in all of my other equipment. Try it once and you will be hooked.
It can be purchased at most major Auto Parts stores.
It can be purchased at most major Auto Parts stores.
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