steering fix for Nytro

[bazerpete]

well yeah its pushing I imagine, it just dosn t want to bite in corners. I have studs but my carbides are really aggressive, 7.5 inch I believe cobra heads.

 

[AKrider]

Before I'd spend any money on skis I'd pull your limiter strap up one or two holes. Be sure to read the Yamaha handling chart in the FAQ's.

 

[00-NUKE]

well yeah its pushing I imagine, it just dosn t want to bite in corners. I have studs but my carbides are really aggressive, 7.5 inch I believe cobra heads.

IMO: Stock skis SUCK!!!!! You can pick ANY brand of ski and it will out perform the stock nytro skis. I agree with AKrider that you may want to work with your limiter strap and suspension settings to make it handle better, but it won't TRULY carve corners until you throw out those skis. I have been through the mill with the stock skis. I had even purchased $250.00 Bergstrom Skegs Tripple Blade carbides for them and they flat out SUCK! They don't have a deep enough runner to maintain steering and they are not wide enough to keep the weight of the front end up. However, aftermarket skis will give you heavy steering, but that is due to the Nytro's linkage design, not the aftermarket skis.

 

[AKrider]

I've run and raced with Curves, Ultra-Flex III's (a C&A copy), stock Nytro, stock Nytro RTX, and Sly-dog race skis. The aftermarket skis were all more aggressive and turned the sled better (especally the Curves) but they all made the darting and bump steer feeling worse. They also tended to make the Nytro stand up in the corners more often. All the aftermarket skis steered harder than the stock skis.

The stock RTX nytro skis (with the deeper keel) are what I found to be the most predictible skis for wide ranging trail conditions. The harder and more set up the trail, the more I like the stock skis. Skis are very subjective and what works for one guy doesn't work for another. I just don't care for ski companies making claims that their skis will fix the Nytro handling quirks when they can actually make the Nytro worse in some instances.

I'd actually like to try some Ski-doo pilot skis as I believe they are rockered and I think that's why they are said to work really well on the Nytro. On a hard trail, the rockered skis will have very little keel on the snow which in theory will reduce the Nytro's bump steer induced darting.

If a guy rides off trail in unpacked snow than the stock skis totally suck and pretty much any ski that is wider than the stock 5" will be an improvement.

 

[Blue Hornet]

The thing withthe pilots is they seem to change from good bite to major push with only minimal snow condition changes. I remember riding 1 day last year where it was a good mix tight woods and open fields and it would grab great in the woods and was handling well then shooting out into the open and coming around a corner was an absolute plowfest then back into the woods and it would handle good again. They are better than stock but not perfect.

 

[AKrider]

In my experience, the pushing issue with the Nytro has to do with excessive weight transfer in the rear skid. I believe Yamaha either mounted or set the skids up to transfer excessively in order to give the illusion of lightness.

A guy has to find the right balance between transfer and ski pressure to get the sled to handle. I think because of either the Nytro's skid mounting location or the design of the skid, the Nytro is far more difficult to set up than most other sleds.

I got my sled set up as the best I could and adapted my riding style. In my last race when I had Pro-R's flying by me like I was tied to a pole I got to ride my buddy's Pro-R after the race. I knew immediately that the Pro-R was better in pretty much every way except for the motor and bottoming out center shock.

The limiter straps in the Nytro do work and lowering the rear of the sled improves handling at the expense of ride quality. You could probably think of the Nytro as wheelie machine. The more you tune out the wheelie, the better it will handle in the corners. Still, the Deltabox chassis is a better all around handling sled than the Nytro.

 

[bazerpete]

tuner dual runner

Is there anyone who s tried the new yamaha Tuner dual runner ski. They were only available to Apex eps model and they re now available for other models. I know there s no one ski that i ll cure every aspect, just want something better than stock.

 

[Mazz]

The tuner ski should be avaliable in november it is an all new dual keel design that has never been avaliable on any stock yamaha, it acually looks real similar to the kimpex arrow. The new ski looks very promising, and pricing is aggresive also, but they will probably be on back order till march, lol.

 

[grizztracks]

I ran both the Kimpex Arrow and Pilot skis on my RTX. I'm not a big fan of either ski. I thought the Pilots worked a little better of the two so I wouldn't expect much out of the new dual keel ski if it's similar to the Arrows. The dual carbide skis are to inconsistent and unpredictable with changing conditions which convinced me to go back to a single runner ski. I think that if you hit the proper setup with the stock, single keel skis you can make them work better. Out of the skis I've tried so far I'm liking the Curves for tight trail riding the best.

 

[zeke66]

I quickly changed out my skis after my first 2 rides with the stockers. I went with Slydog Race ( I do 90% trail riding ).

-Slydog Race
-3/8" shim
-8" Bergstrom trips ( 12x studs)
-center strap pulled in 2 although, I am going to try only 1 this year.

Those 4 things helped out immensly. This is on my 08 RTX.

As for the Slydogs. Only time I experience push is on really loose granular snow. Like, end of the day when the corners are wooped. Other than that, they have been great. I can only recall it being tippy in corners a few times.