Super or Turbo

sleeper

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I know this question probally has been ask on this site a 100 times but I looked and could not find the answers I need. I have a 2006 Apex ER with 4200 miles on it. I was thinking of a new sled then I thought why not just spend the money and boost this one. I ride in N.Y. and the U.P. mostly. Probally 600 to 1800 feet elevation. I want it to run on pump gas and to be for the most part hidden from view. I am leaning toward a supercharger because from what I have read it is more user friendly for my application. Talked to Tom Hartman personally, seems like a great guy to deal with and very informative. He told me that their set up is a install and go system and has a high flow bypass valve with it that helps it get better fuel milage. Yes, fuel mileage is a concern. I don,t want to go from 15 miles a gallon to 10. Tom told me I would probally lose a couple miles per gallon when riding normal. I realize that if you are going to run it hard it will us a lot more fuel. We mostly trail ride on saddlebag trips so being reliable and not having to constantly tune it is very important. I basically want a sled that you can trail ride but if I want to surprised someone when I get the chance I want the power to do that too. Turbos seem like they are a better choice for the mountains but take a lot more effort to tune and make right and hard to hide. I think a turbo will make more power at high altitudes but I am not worried about going above 1800 feet. I know the turbo guys say thay they perform much better but once again that is in the mountains not the flat lands. Any advise would be greatly appreciated.
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Sleeper
 
If I do end up spending the money for boost for the trail it will be MCX Turbo. Best option for boost at this point!
 
I have an MCX low boost kit for sale if your interested it was as good if not better on fuel than stock I would get 110 miles on 31 liters of fuel or 8 US gallons saddlebagging my S/C sled would only get 80 to the same amount of fuel.
 
After having both id have to say turbo aswell
 
stone88 said:
I have an MCX low boost kit for sale if your interested it was as good if not better on fuel than stock I would get 110 miles on 31 liters of fuel or 8 US gallons saddlebagging my S/C sled would only get 80 to the same amount of fuel.
Is it for 2011 and newer Apex?
What is all included and price?
 
I am extremely satisfied with my MCX turbo, can't compare it to a supercharged sled but just can't get enough of it!!
 
Turbo

Mpi turbo nytro but love it in flatlands here in Iowa
Had turbo apex before ran great but it was front mount kit. Only would do rear kits nowadays. Tuning whose are same for either charger.
 
Re: Turbo

tangerine427 said:
Mpi turbo nytro but love it in flatlands here in Iowa
Had turbo apex before ran great but it was front mount kit. Only would do rear kits nowadays. Tuning whose are same for either charger.
I think from what I have read the MCX tuning is spot on and stays there.
 
kviper said:
stone88 said:
I have an MCX low boost kit for sale if your interested it was as good if not better on fuel than stock I would get 110 miles on 31 liters of fuel or 8 US gallons saddlebagging my S/C sled would only get 80 to the same amount of fuel.
Is it for 2011 and newer Apex?
What is all included and price?

Yes its for the 2011 and up
http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-cars-vehicle ... Z464139704
 
If your shelling out for a new kit, Mcx is the only way to go for the apex. Super reliable, spot on running that doesn't need adjusting and no heat issues or other small quirks like some front mounts, turn the key and ride.
 
Thanks for all the feedbacks. I am surprised not one person supported a supercharger. I guess I will have to rethink this project.
Thanks
Sleeper
 
I like my mpi supercharger, but I have to screw around with my clutching/gearing and gems controller quite a bit. I only race with it right now though, no trail riding. I guess if I only trail rode it, i'd be really happy because i'd leave the clutching alone for the most part. we have quite a swing in temp here some days it's -10c and others +1c and the gems only takes a second to dial in, it's the clutching that takes some time.

i'm not going to put in the head shim. I have all three pulleys; 26, 24, 22 so when I want to run 10-12 boost for racing i'll run 118 oct race gas and when I want to trail ride it i'll run 5-8 boost and use 94 gas. i'll use the stock clutch for the low boost and the polar racing clutch for high boost. I can have the machine ready in 5 min whatever I want to do with it.

again, i'm very happy with mine, but then again I was happy with my sled in the first place ;)! .
 
I'm happy with my MPI supercharger as well, I don't think it makes to much difference, fuel mileage will be just a little better with turrbo, charger is a little quicker response, but for trail riding, that's not that big a deal. One thing that does seem easier is the install of a S/C. lot less plumbing to do. I think the key to either route is the fuel management system. Boost is Boost no matter how you get it. It's all the fuel system that makes it run well or be touchy. Just my 2 cents worth
 


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