suspension setup question

[justinator]

Too much weight being carried on the skis. Two ways to look at it and either one may cause that. Too much preload on the front ski springs, or not enough preload on your front skid spring. One way of telling which is how well the sled is transferring. Is the sled lifting the front end easily, too easily, or not at all when you accelerate hard? If it's not lifting it at all, or maybe just barely, you likely don't have enough preload on the front skid spring. Otherwise, and it's likely too much preload on your ski springs.....which would be my first bet.

I'm assuming the limiter strap is all the way out and the tension on your rear torsion springs have been properly set for your weight.

Hicks I am running floats up front but I run them pretty low to most guys, around 60 but I never bottom out. Secondly the front skid spring is pretty much back to stock, but I feel like I have a pretty good balance of lifting the skis.

get rid of the shapers and get some qualipieces cobra head runners. probaly 6 inch. I have a set on my xtx and they work great for anti darting and for some reason they give the sled just a tad of predictable understeer that I love. The sled never wants to lift the inside ski, even when I'm not leaning hard. Other carbides were more "edgy" This is what I will run from now on and I think you'd like these.

Justinator where did you get those so I can check them out. I think that predictable understeer is the wording I am looking for that I experienced those great rides with no carbides. I am a decent size guy so I like to run into the corner hard and use weight and muscle to turn, seems like if you run in that hot and have edgy carbides when I finally do turn the skis all it wants to do is roll. When that outside ski doesnt bite and pick me up I can muscle through turning w/o lifting on the gas. Is this kinda what you got from adding those? You are running those on a stock ski correct?

My opinion is that all 08 Nytros, due to the aggressive geometry, should have a set of aftermarket skis that are designed to eliminate darting.

I put simmon skis on my dad's Nytro, and that thing is a dream to drive. I never driven a sled that tracks so straight down the trail yet just turns and rails so easily. My dad is the biggest "keep it stock and don't mess with it" guy I know and even he says those skis are the best thing ever.

I think the agressive geometry of the 08 front end and the charactertics of the simmons to numb the twitchiness of sleds on the trails makes for a perfect combination for the Nytro.

I am sure other aftermarket skis do the trick as well, but make sure they are not designed to be super aggresive trail skis, look for shallow keels and designs that reduce darting.

Kuss my problem is I read so many things about so many skis I dont have the money to get it wrong so I have just been dealing with it. I almost bought pilots but not sure if a dual carbide would help or hurt my cause of getting something less edgy or help?

I am running them on yamaha mountain ski's but they had the same tendancies as the skinny yamaha ski with normal carbides. I really think you'd like these carbides but they arent cheap. They do last a very long time though, I have 3800 miles and they show very little wear. I have an 09 so I dont know if they'd act the same on an 08 and I'd hatre to make ytou spend coin for nothing but they work nicely on mine. I got mine from my dealer in caribou,maine. Pm me and I'll give you their number.. He stocvks them for yamha ski's. Google qualipieces and you can see what they look like anyway.

 

[billey100]

Billey, I think we have a set of Simmons at the shop. I'm not sure how much of a rush you are in but if you want to meet us at a demo sometime early season, we can bring them up and let you try both. Also, let me know what skis you have your eyes on and if they come in through our trade-in program, we'll try to bring those with us too. Regardless, we'd like to help you any way we can in getting that Nytro up to your standards. It can be done so have faith!

- Sean

www.CurveIndustries.com
www.RideWithRobbie.com

Sean thanks a lot, I will def take you up on that just didnt want to waste your time for skis other than yours. My reasons arent that your skis arent great just a money issue, but getting to try them side by side will help.

I am going to miss the Big East show for the first time in years, we have wedding in Cape Cod and will be gone the whole time the show is on.

 

[Curve Industries]

Just keep us in the loop Billey! We'd be happy to meet you up on Tug Hill or Highmarket sometime if the demos don't work out for you either.

We'll line em' all up, you can try each brand in the same conditions on your very own machine and walk away with exactly what works best for you.

There are no guarantee's for us by using this approach however, 4 out of 5 people who allow us to bolt the XS on, set the machine up and go for a 20 minute ride, come back asking that we don't take them off. The 5th person 'forgot their wallet in the truck' and swears they're good for a phone call at the end of the day ;-)

Tough break on Big East. We have 2 HUGE product releases with one being presented by a pull of the cover. Cape Cod is a great time though if you've never been. The food is awesome and the atmosphere is really laid back. Also, I think October is late enough that traffic won't be a huge issue on your way home Sunday.

Call or email us anytime!

- Sean

www.CurveIndustries.com
www.RideWithRobbie.com

 

[billey100]

Thanks Sean there may be a trip to your shop planned if we get decent snow before the riding season so I can run them.

 

[Curve Industries]

We are always open for our customers Billey! Like I said, you tell us when and where and we'll do our very best to accommodate your schedule.

I think Labrador, Newfoundland just got a couple inches already... hopefully that's a sign of a great season to come!

- Sean

www.CurveIndustries.com
www.RideWithRobbie.com

 

[snowbiscuit]

rear limiter strap

Shorten strap makes a world of difference on handling, better balance and far less ski pressure( rear strap not the front)

 

[**sj**]

Re: rear limiter strap

Shorten strap makes a world of difference on handling, better balance and far less ski pressure( rear strap not the front)

rear strap???

 

[justinator]

Re: rear limiter strap

Shorten strap makes a world of difference on handling, better balance and far less ski pressure( rear strap not the front)

rear strap???

short track nytros have 2 straps