sledsrfun
Newbie
I rode a Phazer Mountain Lite last year but it just wasn't quite what I wanted. A little under powered. Wanted to stick with the 4 strokes. Turn the key and go. I thought about a turbo but figured with the money it costs I could sell the phazer and buy a new sled. Was skeptical about the Nytro at first but WOW! I have 130 miles on it so far and it is exactly what I wanted. Feels much lighter than it is. I thought the phazer handled great the Nytro is even better. I wanted something out of the gate I would be happy with and have no complaints. I get the same mpg that I was getting with the phazer. We ride some groomed trail and some off road. If I had anything that might be a concern is the size of the fuel tank. We generally ride 80 miles or so and it will be close.
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yamiman
Extreme
looks like alot of fun 
im looking into a nytro also, something that i can turn the key and go. My intentions are to leave it stock, how is the climbing ability?? in the pics looks like its doing just fine.
im looking into a nytro also, something that i can turn the key and go. My intentions are to leave it stock, how is the climbing ability?? in the pics looks like its doing just fine.tranquillicer
Newbie
How was the sled "out-of-the-box"? How's the power in the deep stuff?
I'm ready to dump the XP and move on and this is my choice for the replacement. I don't care about the power diff. just want a sled that works like it's suppose to work.
I'm ready to dump the XP and move on and this is my choice for the replacement. I don't care about the power diff. just want a sled that works like it's suppose to work.
sledsrfun
Newbie
Last year was the first year I have ridden a snowmobile since 1992. I bought a new 2007 Phazer mountain lite and put 1100 miles on it. I don't have a whole lot to compare the Nytro MTX to other than that. I ride with another mountain lite and a 2004 1M 570 Arctic cat.
From the experience that I have I couldn't ask for anything better. It meets all my expectations and then some. I thought the phazer handled very well and was and excellent ride. In my opinion the Nytro is even better. It just feels light. Hard to explain for someone just starting to ride again. One of the things I like best is the low end torque. It is amazing. As soon as you touch the throttle you are moving. Big help for slower speed manuvering.
Just to let you know where we ride the snow is fairly wet and heavy. I was able to go pretty much anywhere that I tried. Seemed to perform fine in this type of deep snow to me. I only got stuck twice. Once because I filled my helmet with snow when I plowed through a dip going up a hill and couldn't see where I was going and the other when the clouds came in I was going slow trying to pick a route through the big rocks and sank in some deep snow. The MTX is not as hard to get unstuck as I thought. A little digging and it climbs back right on top the snow again. A Snow Bunje is a big help though.
Hope this answers your questions. I don't think you will be disappointed.
From the experience that I have I couldn't ask for anything better. It meets all my expectations and then some. I thought the phazer handled very well and was and excellent ride. In my opinion the Nytro is even better. It just feels light. Hard to explain for someone just starting to ride again. One of the things I like best is the low end torque. It is amazing. As soon as you touch the throttle you are moving. Big help for slower speed manuvering.
Just to let you know where we ride the snow is fairly wet and heavy. I was able to go pretty much anywhere that I tried. Seemed to perform fine in this type of deep snow to me. I only got stuck twice. Once because I filled my helmet with snow when I plowed through a dip going up a hill and couldn't see where I was going and the other when the clouds came in I was going slow trying to pick a route through the big rocks and sank in some deep snow. The MTX is not as hard to get unstuck as I thought. A little digging and it climbs back right on top the snow again. A Snow Bunje is a big help though.
Hope this answers your questions. I don't think you will be disappointed.
tranquillicer
Newbie
Not suprised to hear about torque. I always figured it's torque that does the real work anyway. Is it freindly on the trails when your heading up to the riding areas? Where I ride in the mts. there is usually 10+mi. of trails each way. I don't ask a lot of these types of sleds on the trails.
Is it warm? On the flats my Summit has not got enough protection for the hands, even with the higher windsheild. -10c to -15c it's a bitch even with the hand gaurds.
If my dealer will do any sort of a reasonable trade, I'll be riding a Nitro by the week end.
Thanx in advance
Is it warm? On the flats my Summit has not got enough protection for the hands, even with the higher windsheild. -10c to -15c it's a bitch even with the hand gaurds.
If my dealer will do any sort of a reasonable trade, I'll be riding a Nitro by the week end.
Thanx in advance
sledsrfun
Newbie
It rides fine on the trail. Doesn't dart quite as bad as the phazer did. Bottoms out fairly easily if there are any major bumps. The second time out there wasn't enough snow to get off trail and it was a very enjoyable ride. Rode about 50 miles. I let the other people I was with take it for a spin and they both agreed it rode better than their sleds.
It doesn't get that cold here. Usually between 20 to 32 degrees F. Definitely not as warm of a ride as the Phazer. I added handguards and that helped alot. It does seem to direct alot of the wind over your head even with the short windshield. Several of the people on this site have added the tall windshield and the deflectors. Supposed to work very well. I was going to do that but actually hasn' been that cold.
It doesn't get that cold here. Usually between 20 to 32 degrees F. Definitely not as warm of a ride as the Phazer. I added handguards and that helped alot. It does seem to direct alot of the wind over your head even with the short windshield. Several of the people on this site have added the tall windshield and the deflectors. Supposed to work very well. I was going to do that but actually hasn' been that cold.
nitro express
Extreme
tranquillicer said:
There is no such thing as out of the box for everyone...find a great dealer and let them set it up for your weight and riding style..Mine set up for BC here had no problem beating 03-06 800's poo or doo in the real steep it was closer but the nytro held its own with zero hassles 2 of the xp riders already converted over as has one modded 700 dragon rider just because of the ease of handling of the over=weight 4-stroke Once set up for you- you will be grinnin from ear to ear until........ : you ride one with boost
tranquillicer
Newbie
If the deal goes I will have one today and boost will come next year. It's a big number to buy. I hear it's scary!!!! My XP pulls incredible to about 60mph and likely will be a great sled at some point but 230hp and all that torque...... no contest.
nitro express
Extreme
So just think of about another 50% thrust only it only starts to slow down around the C note
tranquillicer
Newbie
Did the deal today, pick-up on Wed. Now tell me a good break-in policy. Planning to do some screening and waiting for a higher windshield. Other suggestions are welcome.
Thanx
Thanx
sledsrfun,
NICE PICS! But I have to ask how was the second from the last one taken? It looks like you are almost directly below the camera!
NICE PICS! But I have to ask how was the second from the last one taken? It looks like you are almost directly below the camera!
sledsrfun
Newbie
There is a big bowl we ride in at the foot of Mt. St. Helens. I am actually gong down the hill on the far side of the bowl. My son took the picture from the top lip looking down. My camera has a 10X zoom which is why it makes it look like he was right on top of me. If you look a picture #2 on the lower right you can see 2 shadows. That is from my dad and son standing on the opposite side. Cool place to ride. Doesn't have alot of huge hills more ravine wash out type terrain.
I rode again on 12/26 in about 3 feet of fresh snow. The Nytro still continues to amaze me. On flat ground I was actually dragging elbows in the snow and getting around great. Had a blast. Only got stuck once. Thank god for Snowbunje works as advertised.
I rode again on 12/26 in about 3 feet of fresh snow. The Nytro still continues to amaze me. On flat ground I was actually dragging elbows in the snow and getting around great. Had a blast. Only got stuck once. Thank god for Snowbunje works as advertised.
nitro express
Extreme
tranquillicer said:
I Let it warm up completly, then rode it easy for the first 100 ks no LONG runs just short W/O runs then as long as you warm it up ride it like your truck or car or streetbike
break in...
I read somewhere, recently, that letting the engine decelerate the sled from full throttle back down to a stop was good for getting the rings to seat, kind of in the opposite direction, so that they are getting a good seal from the combustion occurring on one side of the piston, and a good seal from the vaccum from the other side while decelerating.
I have no scientific basis to back this up but it made sense to me. I rode it like I stole it, incorporating this technique into my first few rides as frequently as was realistic.
There's no way I could have broken in a mountain sled like the manual says to do so, I couldn't get up the hill...
Anyway, I was pretty disappointed with the power the first day out, but now that it has +100 miles on it, the motor has loosened up and is much more fun.
I'm still a few hundo rpm's off where I'd like to be at WOT in the pow, but I think that I still have a long way to go on break-in.
Enjoy your new sled!
I read somewhere, recently, that letting the engine decelerate the sled from full throttle back down to a stop was good for getting the rings to seat, kind of in the opposite direction, so that they are getting a good seal from the combustion occurring on one side of the piston, and a good seal from the vaccum from the other side while decelerating.
I have no scientific basis to back this up but it made sense to me. I rode it like I stole it, incorporating this technique into my first few rides as frequently as was realistic.
There's no way I could have broken in a mountain sled like the manual says to do so, I couldn't get up the hill...
Anyway, I was pretty disappointed with the power the first day out, but now that it has +100 miles on it, the motor has loosened up and is much more fun.
I'm still a few hundo rpm's off where I'd like to be at WOT in the pow, but I think that I still have a long way to go on break-in.
Enjoy your new sled!
tranquillicer
Newbie
Thanks for the advice. I'd planed to run 50 or so mi. without wot. I've never broke in the two strokes the way recomended and never had an engine issues. I'm told the power comes up well as the engine breaks in so I'm willing to be patient as long as the rest of the sled works!!!
If any others have converted from REV., is it tuff to learn the Nitro style of riding? What should one expect for surprises? I'm only concerned with fuel capacity and lack of storage space for extra fuel.
If any others have converted from REV., is it tuff to learn the Nitro style of riding? What should one expect for surprises? I'm only concerned with fuel capacity and lack of storage space for extra fuel.
