Nitrousman1
Expert
I have an 08 RTX Nytro with the standard Fox Floats on it now. I haven't riden it yet but I've heard mixed reviews on them for aggressive trail trail riding so I thought I'd ask what everyone else likes? I do some off trail boondocking in the U.P. but not as much as I like because some in my group are panzies and get stuck all the time. On ther trail I go through the 2 to 3 foot moguls as fast as possible just skimming the tops of them so I need a shock that can take it. Would the GYTR be a better option with a revalve or should I stick with the floats? I like to rail the corners too so I need minimal ski lift. How's this thing going to handle compared to my 09 XP 800r X sled? The Nytro has boost too. Thanks for any suggestions.
SledFreak
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A valved GYTR and re-spring GYTR should do the trick. Call Hi-gear and tell them how you ride and they should be able to accomodate you. UNless you can get the new Fox floats with the resoivoir like on the new 2009+ RTX, then it won't be good. It won't handle that great on the trail with the floats.
Alatalo
TY 4 Stroke Master
SledFreak said:
SledFreak said:
X2.
For snocross racing, cross country racing and rough trail riding, an IFP type shock absorber (like the one used in Fox Float) is not an option. Compression damping response time as well as compression damping maximum level is nowhere near the numbers you can get out of a reservoir type shock absorber - or more correct - an additional compression valve type shock absorber (like the GYT-R or the aftermarket options).
Fox Float X Evol are what alot of snowcross guys are running.But they are pricey.
Nitrousman1
Expert
I was considering trading my Floats for some GYTR's that came off an Apex in good shape. I know they're about 1/2 inch shorter but he's running them on his Nytro with no issues. Good trade or no?
XTX622Kane
Veteran
Hey nitrosman I ride in the U.P. and backtrail all day long to dodge the drunks and idots and then blaze the trials at night for hours. If you ever need someone to ride with in U.P. let me know.
Alatalo
TY 4 Stroke Master
Nitrousman1 said:
Actually, the extended length is close to 1" shorter. I seem to remember 419 mm for the Apex and 445 mm for the FX Nytro...?
For sure, the lower front ride height will be a benefit if you are only doing flat, twisty trails, but the change in overall geometry and weight distribution will also have an unknown effect on the suspension function in the bigger bumps. Could possibly work well together with a similar reduction in rear ride height, but then you are giving up rear suspension stroke. Personally, I would not go for this.
Also, I seem to remember that the maximum stroke of the Apex shock and the FX Nytro shock is quite similar. This means that a bottomed out Apex shock will be around 1" shorter than a bottomed out FX Nytro shock. I am not sure that the front end of the FX Nytro is designed to handle this, from a ball joint maximum angle point of view, for instance...?
Nitrousman1
Expert
XTX622Kane said:
Will do, my group plans are always changing. We rented a trailer for this winter in Strongs so I've got a place to stay.
Nitrousman1
Expert
Alatalo said:
Yea I wasn't sure about the length differences so that's why I made the post. I know Matt has been running them on his Nytro with no issues yet. I may just ride it the way it is and see if I'm going to even keep it. Thanks for the info.
Nitrousman,
I raced a 150 mile XC in '08 using Apex GYT-R front shocks and the front end was fine. The reason I ran them was because my stock front shocks did not arrive in time for the race. I sent them out for a revalve and didn't allow for enough time for shipping. Anyway, the downside to running the shorter shocks on an otherwise stock set up was that they made the front end even more nervous at high speed. The sled was scary at high speed! Now, if the rear skid was lowered by the same amount you'd be back to stock geometry but the entire sled would be lower.
Unless a lower sled would be advantageous to your conditions and riding style, I don't think it would be a good trade.
I raced a 150 mile XC in '08 using Apex GYT-R front shocks and the front end was fine. The reason I ran them was because my stock front shocks did not arrive in time for the race. I sent them out for a revalve and didn't allow for enough time for shipping. Anyway, the downside to running the shorter shocks on an otherwise stock set up was that they made the front end even more nervous at high speed. The sled was scary at high speed! Now, if the rear skid was lowered by the same amount you'd be back to stock geometry but the entire sled would be lower.
Unless a lower sled would be advantageous to your conditions and riding style, I don't think it would be a good trade.
arteeex
TY 4 Stroke Master
I would consider pulling up the front strap 3-4 holes if you plan to run shorter shocks. Lowering the nose is going to load the front of the skid and shorten the effective "wheelbase". This might have been the cause of a nervous front end at speed.
terret725
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
i put the float 2 kits in my floats in my phazer and it made a huge differnt. i run about 95 psi. pretty much got ride of most off the body roll. what little is there ive learned it stops after a inch or so of travel. the higher air volume alows u to run the higher presssure and still be able to take the small bumps with out kicking u around.
the kit comes with new piston, valving, seals and most importaint stickers.
the kit comes with new piston, valving, seals and most importaint stickers.
Nitrousman1
Expert
terret725 said:
What did they charge you for the kit?
SUMMITSPIKE
Extreme
i run a 1.75 back country, no boost, not sure on shocks,, stock gytr
terret725
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
well i didnt pay what u would have to. got it for cost and free instalation. but i believe the retail was like 350. Carver sells it.
