Whats to many miles?

Wow I forgot how helpful this site was and think I’ve found a sled but it’s only a 137 and was really hoping for a 141:( question I have is what’s the major diff from 137-141 is tunnel diff assuming not? Can I extend the rails to go to 141? Thanks in advance
The problem is the coupled skid the 137 offers vrs the uncoupled skid any 141 or longer skid is,if you like to have the front end feel light and spirited you may need any uncoupled skid,if you want or need a sled that feels more planted in the front end and generally stays planted in hard corners,than get either a 129 or 137,but the rtx 129 will still feel more sporty vrs the 137,neither will be as good off trail as the xtx 141 or longer.
 
Ok was thinking that’s the 141 was uncoupled ughh decisions the 137 is perfect build and extremely clean but not sure if I wanna go that short previous machines were 14 viper 137 and just last season rode a 18 assault 144
 
Ok was thinking that’s the 141 was uncoupled ughh decisions the 137 is perfect build and extremely clean but not sure if I wanna go that short previous machines were 14 viper 137 and just last season rode a 18 assault 144
Ya the 144 has tipped up rails like my old apex 144 but it being a twin 2 stroke it may of been more spirited than our much heavier 4 strokes,but the power of these 4 strokes is just so addictive...fun.
 
Ya the 144 has tipped up rails like my old apex 144 but it being a twin 2 stroke it may of been more spirited than our much heavier 4 strokes,but the power of these 4 strokes is just so addictive...fun.
I don’t care what anyone says I love the 4stroke reliability the Polaris was fun but always worries about burning it down
 
You made a mistake. There is no way a 2st motor is going to outlast a Yamaha 4st. There is ALWAYS exceptions to the norm of course. You got a bad one. Sorry to hear that.
I think it is it is probable that my current 2-stroke will outlast my last 4-stroke. Of course It is also possible that the bad experience with my 4-stroke is a exception to the norm but I fear it is not. My experience with my old 4-stroke involved symptoms that got progressively worse followed by a diagnosis of tight valves valves and subsequent repair (twice). I reached my limit with that engine in that chassis. Everyone has their limit. In my case it was significant repair requiring camshaft removal in under 15k miles. In the case of my replacement 2-stroke machine my limit would be reached if I have significant repair requiring crankshaft removal in under 15k miles. I can tolerate and maybe even enjoy a lesser repair such as a top end refresh. More and more I am hearing about higher mileage 2-strokes. Recently all three of the 2-stroke manufacturers have made oil injection improvements to improve longevity. We will see.
 
I think it is it is probable that my current 2-stroke will outlast my last 4-stroke. Of course It is also possible that the bad experience with my 4-stroke is a exception to the norm but I fear it is not. My experience with my old 4-stroke involved symptoms that got progressively worse followed by a diagnosis of tight valves valves and subsequent repair (twice). I reached my limit with that engine in that chassis. Everyone has their limit. In my case it was significant repair requiring camshaft removal in under 15k miles. In the case of my replacement 2-stroke machine my limit would be reached if I have significant repair requiring crankshaft removal in under 15k miles. I can tolerate and maybe even enjoy a lesser repair such as a top end refresh. More and more I am hearing about higher mileage 2-strokes. Recently all three of the 2-stroke manufacturers have made oil injection improvements to improve longevity. We will see.
I hear you buddy. Did the valve adjustment on mine too. It sucked. But so does any job on a 2 st engine now. They are packed in and buried. A lot to take off either. A overall loss in my opinion maintainence wise for a 2 st and that’s not counting major component failure.
 
I think it is it is probable that my current 2-stroke will outlast my last 4-stroke. Of course It is also possible that the bad experience with my 4-stroke is a exception to the norm but I fear it is not. My experience with my old 4-stroke involved symptoms that got progressively worse followed by a diagnosis of tight valves valves and subsequent repair (twice). I reached my limit with that engine in that chassis. Everyone has their limit. In my case it was significant repair requiring camshaft removal in under 15k miles. In the case of my replacement 2-stroke machine my limit would be reached if I have significant repair requiring crankshaft removal in under 15k miles. I can tolerate and maybe even enjoy a lesser repair such as a top end refresh. More and more I am hearing about higher mileage 2-strokes. Recently all three of the 2-stroke manufacturers have made oil injection improvements to improve longevity. We will see.
What did you buy?
 
A holdover 2018 ZR 6000 (600 cc) from the Arctic Cat side. Same motor now available from Yamaha side. Figure if it meets Yamaha standards...
Fun sled. Let us know when you have to go into the motor. Hopefully not soon.
 
Let us know when you have to go into the motor. Hopefully not soon.
I will report what I find with regard to longevity on the 600 2-stroke. Back to the original post and my 7000 (Viper) repair cost. After 25k miles my total cost of maintenance and repair equaled the new cost of the machine but I had very little repair cost before 15k miles. Most of the repair cost was tied to the engine valves, reverse transmission and actuators (3). After 15k miles I also had failure of brake caliper, chain case, skid frame arm, fuel pump, seat heater, track clips and engine stator. It only left me stranded twice when when I could not pull fuel from the front pickup (fuel pump) and when the engine would not crank over (stator).
 


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