Who is having problems with NYTROS steering like a tank?

[clicker_clit]

Sucking up the front limiter will add ski pressure (all thinks being neutral) If I remember right you have the non rtx FX Nytro. How much spring preload pressure are you running? IF you were not bottoming out the front end from time to time BACK OFF on the preload! (backing off your spring preload & sucking up your limiter strap 'can' somewhat cancel each other out on over all ski pressure! (I need to look into it but I understand the max front shocks spring preload is actually a very small amount before you get spring coil bind!) This may be what is happening to some of you bigger guys..I really don't know yet!
This is my first 4 stoke so dailing in the front is a bit more of a challenge (for me) than the rear. I had also never had fox floats either but I'm done with them for now... BUT both front and rear suspensions have to play together or it's either NOT fast and/or it's NOT comfy! Just remeber make one chage at a time and make SMALL changes as each change will effect another aspect of the overall handling of your sled. When you don't know where to stat it is ALWAYS best to go back to neutral settings on all tunable components! and start from there. Read up on what does what. Don't get lost in high speed dampening and low speed dampening at this point as for the most part your front shocks can tune for high speed compression and rebound dampening.

Is this your first rider forward sled?As they DO ride different!
Just for grins take your toe out measurement 10" from front and rear of ski bolt.

No my last sled was a Fusion which was rider forward. Yes it's a NON RTX and it will be a great trail sled after someone sets it up properly but I'm not that guy.....I have never had to do this much set up on a sled out of the box and so my knowledge is lacking. I'm sure the sled would be no big deal for someone who already owned a 4 stroke and is use to riding one but again I'm not that guy.

I don't think the fusion is rider foward. They might say it is, but it isn't. A perfect example of rider foward is the REV. The Nytro is the closest snowmobile to the rider foward position on the Rev. The fusions is similar to the old nytro and apex's as far as rider position but not even quite that rider foward. This sled is totally different from the Fusion and will handle totally different until you get use to it. It handles about the same as the Rev. A lot of riders coming from either Arctic-cat or polaris tend not to like this style of sled and prefer to sit back and down closer to the ground.

 

[Srxspec]

Thanks Srxspec! I was hoping for a follow up from you on this thread. Care to elaberate on why or at least your theroy why these skis should be toe in and a measuremnt how much toe in from what distance from ski bolt? I'll take a PM if you care NOT to dicuss it in an open form?

Sorry I didn't answer this earlier today. I was gone delivering a customers sled for 5 hours and then trying to play catch up after being gone! Add that up with 50 emails and 50 pm's to return and you end up still sitting at your office desk at 9:30 PM like I am right now (when your day started at 6:30 AM). LOL!

I had 1-FX Nytro setup this weekend at "Neutral" or "0" toe in or toe out and 1-FX Nytro setup with 3/16" of toe-in and you could tell which sled was setup correctly. The sled setup at "neutral" was much more jittery and wanted to jab around while riding.

Slydog skis seem to toe-out slightly under actual snow conditions with the drag created by the snow, this is fixed by the toe-in while sitting still. Always do the setup with the sled on the ground, I push the front and rear bumpers down as far as I can and allow the sled to come back to it's "ride height" on it's own. From there I adjust the toe-in measuring at the front carbide stud and rear carbide stud on the ski. This is for Slydog skis only.

I have 5-FX Nytros right now as shop sleds, we are trying to test endless combinations from clutching to gearing to suspension, but there is only so many hours in a day unfortunately! Any information I can help with ride & handling I will post when I have free time to update people or help those who are needing a little guidance.

 

[gormleyflyer2002]

I have a std FX Nytro and I'm having the opposite problem. I have Doo Pilots with 6 inch shapers in the middle and the front end feels too light. I'm thinking of shortening the front limiter strap to get more ski pressure. I don't mind it with the light front because it still steers good but the front comes up too quickly while exiting turns. It sounds to Me that your skis and setup are way too aggressive for a rider forward sled.

can you tell me what rubber stops or bumbers you used to mount your pilots....?


cheers, BK

 

[NB-NYTRO]

You also wants to make sure your skis are parallel with your track.

 

[stock]

ttt for part #of rubber for pilots. Thanks

 

[larrypolaris]

Paul,
Larry here. I have the new USI X2s. The feel normal to light for
steering effort. Even without the power steering plates.
You might want to try the new X2s with power steering plates.
My skis are toed out slightly. Virtually zero darting on any conditions.

 

[Sled Solutions]

Paul,
Larry here. I have the new USI X2s. The feel normal to light for
steering effort. Even without the power steering plates.
You might want to try the new X2s with power steering plates.
My skis are toed out slightly. Virtually zero darting on any conditions.

Thanks Larry.....I'll keep that in mind for sure!

 

[mdkuni]

Paul,
Larry here. I have the new USI X2s. The feel normal to light for
steering effort. Even without the power steering plates.
You might want to try the new X2s with power steering plates.
My skis are toed out slightly. Virtually zero darting on any conditions.

That is strange because I tried these skis with and without power steering plates and thought they were horrible. The steering effort was to much and they darted. I am running no studs. Ride them on a trail when the groomer has set up a solid base and you should know what I am talking about. In powder they are light...

They may work for others but I am just posting my experience with them.

 

[journeyman]

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[snownutz]

I have the x2 stage 1 kit w/dual shaper bars no power steering plate. Have zero darting and easy steering. I just don't think the slydogs are the best for this sled on the trail. Just my opinion!