Wider ski stance by switching stock spacers

[ralger]

I was going to switch the spacers on the skis to widen the stance by moving the wider spacer to the outside of the ski and the shorter one to the inside to gain 1/8" per side. Has anyone tried running with both spacers on the outside of the spindle? This would gain 3/4" per side or overall a 1 1/2" wider ski stance. My thought is that it should help with darting and cornering.

 

[WANN4STROKE]

Take them both to the outside.

 

[lucky_7]

There were a lot of people messing with these last year. I ran both spacers on the outside all last year. It does add more stress the the bolt and bushings on the inside of the spindle.

 

[BLUEBALLER]

There were a lot of people messing with these last year. I ran both spacers on the outside all last year. It does add more stress the the bolt and bushings on the inside of the spindle.

I agree - I found the spindle bushings to have a bit of play in them after doing this & riding 4000 kms.

that's why this year, I made my own bushings to give about a 1" wider stance than stock. I have 1/4" bushings on the inside to prevent the skis from rubbing on the spindles.

I don't think you'll have an issue with the ski rub on spindle because the curve ski bushing has a flange on it (on the inside). my outlaws didn't have this flange & I had some rubin' going on.

Overall - I think widening really helped the sled to corner flatter. Didn't hurt - that's for sure.

 

[CrankyApeX]

I was going to switch the spacers on the skis to widen the stance by moving the wider spacer to the outside of the ski and the shorter one to the inside to gain 1/8" per side. Has anyone tried running with both spacers on the outside of the spindle? This would gain 3/4" per side or overall a 1 1/2" wider ski stance. My thought is that it should help with darting and cornering.

If both pictures are of your left ski (photo #1 showing stock setting) it looks like you narrowed the ski stance.. I'm sure they aren't though...just razzin ya...

 

[Sled Dog]

Yea I was thinking the same to be wider the shims should be on the other side.

 

[Daranello]

Both shims aren't the same size, but yamaha calls for the smaller to be on the outside like the first pix.

There must be a reason why theuse the smaller one out the outside thus making the stance smaller? Normally you would think the wider one would be on the outside...

 

[SISCAKIDD]

Yea I was thinking the same to be wider the shims should be on the other side.

unless he is taking the pic from the rear of the sled its hard to tell.

 

[ralger]

Sorry guys, the stock picture is my left ski, the other picture is the right ski. I changed one and then took both pictures at the same time.

Bueballer - I noticed the bushings already have a little play in them (1,000 miles) before making the change. So, I don't know that it made it worse in your situation or not.

I thought I could always just add another washer on the inside if the ski if needed, but it looks like it shouldn't rub with the Curve skis.

Daranello - I assume there is a restriction on how wide the ski stance can be. Since most groomers are 8' wide, I believe the overall width has to be under 48" (outside of skis). By putting the smaller shim on the outside, they are able to widen the spindle stance while keeping the overall width within the restrictions. The stock ski stance on the Yammy is 42 1/4" to center of ski. I am now at 43 3/4" to center of ski and 51" to the outside of the Curves. Also, I was already having an issue with the skis hitting my other sled on the trailer, now I will have to overlap them to get them to fit on the trailer.

 

[dirtmodified32]

i put the spacers on the outside (on both the phazer and the nytro), it felt more stable with the wider stance. have not seen any wear issues but i only get a very short riding season

 

[**sj**]

There were a lot of people messing with these last year. I ran both spacers on the outside all last year. It does add more stress the the bolt and bushings on the inside of the spindle.

I agree - I found the spindle bushings to have a bit of play in them after doing this & riding 4000 kms.

that's why this year, I made my own bushings to give about a 1" wider stance than stock. I have 1/4" bushings on the inside to prevent the skis from rubbing on the spindles.

I don't think you'll have an issue with the ski rub on spindle because the curve ski bushing has a flange on it (on the inside). my outlaws didn't have this flange & I had some rubin' going on.

Overall - I think widening really helped the sled to corner flatter. Didn't hurt - that's for sure.

Im interested in this and blueballer's bushing fix....details and pix?

 

[SledFreak]

Both shims aren't the same size, but yamaha calls for the smaller to be on the outside like the first pix.

There must be a reason why theuse the smaller one out the outside thus making the stance smaller? Normally you would think the wider one would be on the outside...

So, this is correct. I took my skis off to shim them and I noticed I don't think I have the spacers in the correct way. The smaller ones are to be on the outside? I Just want to confirm before I pull them apart. Thanks...

 

[Daranello]

Both shims aren't the same size, but yamaha calls for the smaller to be on the outside like the first pix.

There must be a reason why theuse the smaller one out the outside thus making the stance smaller? Normally you would think the wider one would be on the outside...

So, this is correct. I took my skis off to shim them and I noticed I don't think I have the spacers in the correct way. The smaller ones are to be on the outside? I Just want to confirm before I pull them apart. Thanks...

yep, i uncrated and built my own sled...the dealer set up docs call for it that way....pm me your email ill send you the doc