Dude, with 17 post and all about how heavy you think the Yamaha sno-x sleds are with no pure evidence to back up your claims... Do you really think Yamaha did not know it was going to be a challenge? All I think you are is a troll trying to stirr the pot.
Actually the purpose of the post was not the weight but how they were spreading out their race money. Your the one who focussed on the one bit of the post that talked about weight. And, as you can see I am not the only one backing up that claim.
Stir the pot? God forbid someone do that in here. If stating facts stirs the pot, then so be it Dude.
btw: its 18 post now

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NytroSx said:If stating facts stirs the pot, then so be it Dude.
btw: its 18 post now![]()
We've had a couple people bring up the min weight and you've yet to address this point.
Just for laughs, how much do you think it's costing them for the race program(sled program only)??? I can run a 12 race (oval stock car) touring season up here for $300,000/year without salaries. Those Cup style haulers look pricey but you can pick them up pretty cheap used.
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NytroSx said:Dude, with 17 post and all about how heavy you think the Yamaha sno-x sleds are with no pure evidence to back up your claims... Do you really think Yamaha did not know it was going to be a challenge? All I think you are is a troll trying to stirr the pot.
Actually the purpose of the post was not the weight but how they were spreading out their race money. Your the one who focussed on the one bit of the post that talked about weight. And, as you can see I am not the only one backing up that claim.
Stir the pot? God forbid someone do that in here. If stating facts stirs the pot, then so be it Dude.
btw: its 18 post now![]()
Listen, we all have our opinons. Some are off by alot, IN MY OPINION. Ever think that there may be people on here that may know just a tad bit more about it than you do? Thats not my opionion, thats a fact!
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Snowcross racers, with the exception of Morgan, typically have a short career. It only makes sense a racer would want to give himself every chance to succeed - and in snocross this means also racing the stock class.
Boss Racing and Robbie were probably dissapointed when they found out Yamaha was only gonna offer an Open class racer this year, again. I guarantee this had an effect on their decision to switch. Racing one class is a disadvantage for the riders and teams with the reduction in track time.
Yamaha will never have more than a half-hearted effort in Sno-x UNTIL they have developed a competant stocker. Only then will we see privateer and expanded factory support teams - and increase the amount of blue on the track.
Boss Racing and Robbie were probably dissapointed when they found out Yamaha was only gonna offer an Open class racer this year, again. I guarantee this had an effect on their decision to switch. Racing one class is a disadvantage for the riders and teams with the reduction in track time.
Yamaha will never have more than a half-hearted effort in Sno-x UNTIL they have developed a competant stocker. Only then will we see privateer and expanded factory support teams - and increase the amount of blue on the track.
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cappy13 said:I met Team Boss and actually got to know them a little bit - enough to realize that they are great people and they want to win . Yamaha funds them for R&D but Yamaha also does there own across the world so when you here a huge number please realize that .
As for Yugi being a bad driver he did win Japans snocross championship last year and here he has had a couple low spots but lets be real - at your job are you #1 every day? Im not trying to start any bitchfest (lol 50 lbs) but IMHO all drivers have low spots and high spots - whos hot today will be cold tomorrow - and its freezing here in northern minnesota!
I back Yamaha because they are doing what nobody thinks they can do and I ride there products because they are what I like - not because some kid half my size won a few races on a sled I cant even buy .
I didnt buy my pickup based on Nascar wins either lol
Lets be honest.. There are alot of guys who win and dominate in other countrys, but when they come to the US, they are at the back of the pack, not always because they have a long flight or no sleep, its because the US has AWSOME athleats..
I dont think Yugi has any tuker hibberts or blair morgans in Japan... LOL
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BlueByYou2000 said:NytroSx said:Dude, with 17 post and all about how heavy you think the Yamaha sno-x sleds are with no pure evidence to back up your claims... Do you really think Yamaha did not know it was going to be a challenge? All I think you are is a troll trying to stirr the pot.
Actually the purpose of the post was not the weight but how they were spreading out their race money. Your the one who focussed on the one bit of the post that talked about weight. And, as you can see I am not the only one backing up that claim.
Stir the pot? God forbid someone do that in here. If stating facts stirs the pot, then so be it Dude.
btw: its 18 post now![]()
Listen, we all have our opinons. Some are off by alot, IN MY OPINION. Ever think that there may be people on here that may know just a tad bit more about it than you do? Thats not my opionion, thats a fact!
I'll ask you the same question you asked me on a previous thread, are you having fun here or am I not allowed to ask since I'm not Mr. Moderator? Hate to break the news to you, man, but NytroSX's opinions are a lot closer to fact then yours are.
You said earlier that Yamaha has a "master plan" for snocross racing. What exactly is that? Is that the same brilliant master plan that they employed in the late '90s when they were embarassing every Yamaha rider, enthusiast and dealer on the snocross track running a completely uncompetitive sled and then transfering nothing from that sled onto the production units? It's ironic, the actual current snocross effort is being run by the same knucklehead that brought us two years of the over-hyped not-made-for-sleds Doug Henry, Yuji Crashazawa and later a washed-up Chris Vincent finishing last place in every heat and not making the final. They even let DJ Eckstrom leave mid season to go race a Ski-Doo because they were too stubborn to let him race pro after he beat the hell out of everyone in the semi-pro class. Then they ran Malinoski off last year, halfway through a two year deal. Again, hats of to Yamaha for trying, but that sled, in it's current configuration, will NEVER be competitive with two strokes on a snocross track and anyone who thinks it can is dillusional. You might consider that there are people on here who know A LOT more about it than you do. And THAT is a fact.
1998 season of sno-cross Nathin Titus had three pro wins, and a number of podium finishes. He also led the points for over half the seson only losing the title by two points in the last race of the season at Geneva WI. To say that the old race team was a joke is a testimate to how "smart" you are. That season Yamaha was the only other sled that posed any compition for Morgan, And that is a direct qoute from #7c him self.
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Boy this is getting to be a "fun" thread


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john_the_fisherman said:will NEVER be competitive with two strokes
Boy, sounds alot like the 90's and supercross........

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Stu said:Boy this is getting to be a "fun" thread![]()
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I think it's getting old fast! everyone is welcome to there opinions but to state them over and over eventually gets boring.
John the Fisherman if you have issues with moderation don't broadcast it publically contact me or MrSled via PM's and we will deal with it. The entire TY staff is volunteers and they work very hard to keep threads from going postal it's not as much fun as you would think!
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This is what Yamaha has for $$$$$'s for Yamaha Racers that race in M.I.R.A. Sprint / Enduro for placing 1 2 or 3. There not giving money to teams, just money if you place in a race, on a yamaha, witch is better than nothingNytroSx said:Dude, with 17 post and all about how heavy you think the Yamaha sno-x sleds are with no pure evidence to back up your claims... Do you really think Yamaha did not know it was going to be a challenge? All I think you are is a troll trying to stirr the pot.
Actually the purpose of the post was not the weight but how they were spreading out their race money. Your the one who focussed on the one bit of the post that talked about weight. And, as you can see I am not the only one backing up that claim.
Stir the pot? God forbid someone do that in here. If stating facts stirs the pot, then so be it Dude.
btw: its 18 post now![]()
Yamaha has been doing this for M.I.R.A. sinse 2003. Each year it gets alittle better.
This is from M.I.R.A.'s web site :: Yamaha is offering almost $50,000 contingency to MIRA racers that run their 2006 or newer Apex or FX-Nitro machines in the super stock 600 and pro stock 600 classes. M.I.R.A. Events
PRO SUPER STOCK 600 ENDURO
1st----$2500.00
2nd----$1000.00
3rd----$500.00
SEMI-PRO STOCK 600 ENDURO
1st----$500.00
2nd----$300.00
3rd----$100.00
PRO SUPER STOCK 600, PRO STOCK 600, SEMI-PRO SUPER STOCK 600 sprint
1st----$500.00
2nd----$300.00
3rd----$100.00
MIRA points championships-$6500.00
On behalf of MIRA, I would like to thank Yamaha for their generous support.
Sincerely D Dantuma
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Can,t knock Yugi,saw the guy get fourthplace at the X-games final in 2001.
.If Yamaha or anyone else wants to compete in snowcross good for them , I hope them well...I just hope these guys buying these snowcross type sleds know the difference between the trails and the track ...........
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Crewchief47 said:john_the_fisherman said:will NEVER be competitive with two strokes
Boy, sounds alot like the 90's and supercross........![]()

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Does anybody here think that if Yamaha would support a more grass-roots level of racing, with some sort of contingency program, thay would be hugely successful?? I do. I think if you take away all the B.S. and big corporate $$$$, there wouldn't be much left but to prove yourself out on the track with relatively stock sleds. That being said, I think from there it woudl come down to the setup, and the rider. Period.
We all ride Yamahas here (at least most of us). How many times were you seriously outridden on a rought trail becouse your machine couldn't do it? (when riding with a comparable machine, since thats what "classes" do in racing) I'll ride as hard or harder than the next guy, and I'll beat him on my stock sled that DOES weigh alot more, because I'm sick of hearing obout how heavy Yamahas are!!!! I DONT CARE!!!! I ride now with just about every brand out there, and not once has anybody eer said my sled coldn't keep up because it was slow!
Yamaha has to have somehing up their sleeve for the racing program. Give them a few years, and i suspect that everybody will be commending Yamaha and their strategies. That is, if they are racing like they are selling.....
We all ride Yamahas here (at least most of us). How many times were you seriously outridden on a rought trail becouse your machine couldn't do it? (when riding with a comparable machine, since thats what "classes" do in racing) I'll ride as hard or harder than the next guy, and I'll beat him on my stock sled that DOES weigh alot more, because I'm sick of hearing obout how heavy Yamahas are!!!! I DONT CARE!!!! I ride now with just about every brand out there, and not once has anybody eer said my sled coldn't keep up because it was slow!
Yamaha has to have somehing up their sleeve for the racing program. Give them a few years, and i suspect that everybody will be commending Yamaha and their strategies. That is, if they are racing like they are selling.....
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