venture2
Extreme
Hello-
Can someone explain or tell me where to read, what effect changing the suspension adjustments will have on the machine performance? For example, on the control rod; what effect does "increase or decrease" weight transfer have? Same for limitor strap, if I pull it up tighter or loosen it what effect does it have. From what I've read here, it seems like one adjustment affects the other. I have front ski shock springs, limitor straps, mid "external, side adjustment" spring and rear control rod.
The plastic card you get from the dealer just explains "increase or decrease" settings but no explaination of what it will do; and the dealer wasn't much help, sorry to say.
we do mostly groomed trail riding and I would say moderate to aggressive at times and so far with all the adjustments in their mid position it seems okay but I'm wondering if I could improve and also just like to know whats going on under there.
Thanks!!
Don
Can someone explain or tell me where to read, what effect changing the suspension adjustments will have on the machine performance? For example, on the control rod; what effect does "increase or decrease" weight transfer have? Same for limitor strap, if I pull it up tighter or loosen it what effect does it have. From what I've read here, it seems like one adjustment affects the other. I have front ski shock springs, limitor straps, mid "external, side adjustment" spring and rear control rod.
The plastic card you get from the dealer just explains "increase or decrease" settings but no explaination of what it will do; and the dealer wasn't much help, sorry to say.
we do mostly groomed trail riding and I would say moderate to aggressive at times and so far with all the adjustments in their mid position it seems okay but I'm wondering if I could improve and also just like to know whats going on under there.
Thanks!!
Don
So not even close to being an expert so I'll leave it brief so as not to expose my ignorance.
Increase transfer will get you better traction but will cause the ski's to lift more. For only trail riding and not racing you can probably take some transfer out.
Limiter straps are that limits the travel of the suspension. If you pull them tighter your increasing front ski pressure.
If you search back a few years much of this is covered in detail.
Increase transfer will get you better traction but will cause the ski's to lift more. For only trail riding and not racing you can probably take some transfer out.
Limiter straps are that limits the travel of the suspension. If you pull them tighter your increasing front ski pressure.
If you search back a few years much of this is covered in detail.
venture2
Extreme
Thanks!
Thanks for the info; I had looked for previous posts on this subject but probably didn't go back far enough. What you said makes sense though, so the limitor straps have replaced the front suspension springs like those used on my old 70's arctic cats, I know from experience that if I wound up those springs that it would un-weight the skis. But these new machines have a lot of adjustments working together and I like to be sure of what I'm doing. I've only opened up the Vector once or twice and the skis came off the surface by about 8" or so for a short distance , so the control rods must be set pretty close for how I ride.
Don
Thanks for the info; I had looked for previous posts on this subject but probably didn't go back far enough. What you said makes sense though, so the limitor straps have replaced the front suspension springs like those used on my old 70's arctic cats, I know from experience that if I wound up those springs that it would un-weight the skis. But these new machines have a lot of adjustments working together and I like to be sure of what I'm doing. I've only opened up the Vector once or twice and the skis came off the surface by about 8" or so for a short distance , so the control rods must be set pretty close for how I ride.
Don
tourer
Newbie
Venture 2
It depends on what your trying to achieve. For the best ride, which is my goal, set the transfer rods to about maximum transfer, about 1 inch of rod showing buy the adjustment nuts with suspension hanging (not touching the ground). Have rear suspension springs set as light as possible, that means bottoming out only on what you consider the big bumps but you do want it to bottom out or you won't be gitting as smooth a ride that is available in that suspension. Also if the ski lift is to much for you adjust the front(and only) coil spring in the rear suspension lower (lowest is best) .and use the rear torsion springs to adjust for weight. I would leave the limiter strap in stock position as that reduces total suspension travel and hurts ride.
It depends on what your trying to achieve. For the best ride, which is my goal, set the transfer rods to about maximum transfer, about 1 inch of rod showing buy the adjustment nuts with suspension hanging (not touching the ground). Have rear suspension springs set as light as possible, that means bottoming out only on what you consider the big bumps but you do want it to bottom out or you won't be gitting as smooth a ride that is available in that suspension. Also if the ski lift is to much for you adjust the front(and only) coil spring in the rear suspension lower (lowest is best) .and use the rear torsion springs to adjust for weight. I would leave the limiter strap in stock position as that reduces total suspension travel and hurts ride.
mbw919
Pro
I'm no suspension expert but here's what I have experienced so far with my '06 Vector: With everything set the way it was delivered, I was bottoming the rear suspension too easily. I ended up having to move the monoshock's clip to the second position to get the spring preload needed for my weight. Talked about it in this thread:
http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php? ... highlight=
I then added four clicks more damping on the RA dial to slow the rebound when riding over bumps. I also added a bit more spring preload to the front (ski) springs to keep things balanced front to rear. All of this made me very happy with the performance through the bumps but one thing that still bothered me was the tendency to lift the inside ski and tip to the outside on tight corners. I adjusted the transfer rod from near maximum to near minimum and it now corners much flatter. I made no changes to the limiter strap. I use Woody’s 6" single carbide runners. The stock runners had 3" of carbide, no wear pads or hard weld, and didn't bite very well in the corners.
This seems to be a very good setup for groomed trail riding. I have minimal darting now and there seems to be plenty of ski pressure. The ride is a little firm but allows for some pretty aggressive riding. Today I played off trail for a while and kind of missed the weight transfer but that's easy to change with the transfer rod.
In summary, I would suggest getting your spring preload set for your weight first, experiment with the damping until it performs the way you want in the bumps, and then set the transfer rod for the type of riding you want to do. It takes a little time, but this suspension can be dialed in the way you want. Enjoy!
Martin
'06 Vector GT
http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php? ... highlight=
I then added four clicks more damping on the RA dial to slow the rebound when riding over bumps. I also added a bit more spring preload to the front (ski) springs to keep things balanced front to rear. All of this made me very happy with the performance through the bumps but one thing that still bothered me was the tendency to lift the inside ski and tip to the outside on tight corners. I adjusted the transfer rod from near maximum to near minimum and it now corners much flatter. I made no changes to the limiter strap. I use Woody’s 6" single carbide runners. The stock runners had 3" of carbide, no wear pads or hard weld, and didn't bite very well in the corners.
This seems to be a very good setup for groomed trail riding. I have minimal darting now and there seems to be plenty of ski pressure. The ride is a little firm but allows for some pretty aggressive riding. Today I played off trail for a while and kind of missed the weight transfer but that's easy to change with the transfer rod.
In summary, I would suggest getting your spring preload set for your weight first, experiment with the damping until it performs the way you want in the bumps, and then set the transfer rod for the type of riding you want to do. It takes a little time, but this suspension can be dialed in the way you want. Enjoy!
Martin
'06 Vector GT
tourer
Newbie
tourer said:
Dis regard above response I didn't know it was a mono.
