09 xtx start issue

[Grant Nielson]

Hi All, so my Nytro has been giving me starter issues for a while now. It all began with a broken magnet. Anyway. I just put a new starter in her last year. Started right up . Took it down the hill got on to the lake and engine staled and now it will not start. Turns over very slow. With heavy draw on the battery. I am thinking it is in the starter gears and 1 way clutch. Could anyone please help me. I miss my Nytro . Would really like to ride this season !! Thanks in advanec

 

[MrSled]

Hi All, so my Nytro has been giving me starter issues for a while now. It all began with a broken magnet. Anyway. I just put a new starter in her last year. Started right up . Took it down the hill got on to the lake and engine staled and now it will not start. Turns over very slow. With heavy draw on the battery. I am thinking it is in the starter gears and 1 way clutch. Could anyone please help me. I miss my Nytro . Would really like to ride this season !! Thanks in advanec

I have seen the starters fail again.. did you buy an after market and its possible the relay stuck and it spun engaged and took it out again.

 

[Grant Nielson]

I have seen the starters fail again.. did you buy an after market and its possible the relay stuck and it spun engaged and took it out again.

I had the original rebuild extra tough from a very good tech. Had the starter out and bench tested it. All good. The engine stalled dead. Which has never happened ever. Is it possible the start clutch is buggered

 

[Grant Nielson]

I had the original rebuild extra tough from a very good tech. Had the starter out and bench tested it. All good. The engine stalled dead. Which has never happened ever. Is it possible the start clutch is buggered

I have seen the starters fail again.. did you buy an after market and its possible the relay stuck and it spun engaged and took it out again.

also if you turn the primary clutch by hand forward. Nice and smooth . If you go backwards it scraps. I can’t image this is normal

 

[MrSled]

also if you turn the primary clutch by hand forward. Nice and smooth . If you go backwards it scraps. I can’t image this is normal

You should never turn the clutch backwards on the motor or you could jump the timing chain.

 

[Grant Nielson]

You should never turn the clutch backwards on the motor or you could jump the timing chain.

I am aware. It was ever so slight .

 

[Grant Nielson]

I am aware. It was ever so slight .

So this problem you fell is starter and a sticking solenoid??? I have changed those over and over again.

 

[MrSled]

I am aware. It was ever so slight .

Maybe the starter bendex is out and binding.. u can pull the Mag Cover and get to the to the starter gear.

 

[MrSled]

So this problem you fell is starter and a sticking solenoid??? I have changed those over and over again.

Pulling the Mag Cover to me might be the easiest way to investigate.

 

[Grant Nielson]

Pulling the Mag Cover to me might be the easiest way to investigate.

Ok great . I hope it’s in there . Thanks so much.

 

[4strokes]

sounds like the battery and or starter to me. this style of starter is always engaged with the ring gear having a hilliard bearing. your rolling the engine forward smoothly and feeling it turn the starter backwards is normal operation. If the starter relay stuck engaged and you didn't hear the starter turning and rode anyway, it would kill the battery and stall the engine. when the starter is out, you can stick your finger in the hole to check ring gear. smooth one way and grabbing the motor the other

 

[74Nitro]

also if you turn the primary clutch by hand forward. Nice and smooth . If you go backwards it scraps. I can’t image this is normal

I think you are on the right track with the starter clutch.

 

[74Nitro]

I have seen the starters fail again.. did you buy an after market and its possible the relay stuck and it spun engaged and took it out again.

True, sometimes the aftermarket starters and relays are of poor quality(but great prices).

 

[Grant Nielson]

sounds like the battery and or starter to me. this style of starter is always engaged with the ring gear having a hilliard bearing. your rolling the engine forward smoothly and feeling it turn the starter backwards is normal operation. If the starter relay stuck engaged and you didn't hear the starter turning and rode anyway, it would kill the battery and stall the engine. when the starter is out, you can stick your finger in the hole to check ring gear. smooth one way and grabbing the motor the other

 

[Grant Nielson]

Hmmm, new starter original Yamaha rebuilt by very very good tech. New Yamaha start relay. And I have an extra . It’s the scrap sound that puzzles me. It’s for sure not the starter rolling. Thanks for the input