2009 rs venture wont turn over

[Roger]

lol what the hell are you even talking about?

the point i made here is you can put a LOAD TESTER on the jump start connections that on the sled without removing anything to get to it. You dont know the impedance of the engine while starting nor do you have a resister that simulate a load so a DC voltmeter is useless


lmao, i just read your post again. i don't think you know what a load test is. just because a battery has a 12v+ reading doesnt mean its good. a voltmeter doesnt measure the current flow ability of a battery properly on its own. a load tester simulates what the engine does and forces the battery to work. which tells you the healthyness of the juicy goodness inside

WOWSER
For you, I'll try to explain again, what I stated the first time I posted on this thread.
I don't think you know what you are talking about half the time.
I'll make a correction to almost everything you just stated.

A load tester will test the batteries capability of handling a load.
The load tester simulates a load by energizing an electric heating element (in most cases), in the load tester.
The load tester indicates the voltage of the battery, irregardless of whether or not you have a load applied.
With no load applied, the voltmeter should indicate 13-14 volts.
With the load applied, a good battery will still indicate 13-14 volts.

A load tester won't check anything else, but the battery.

A DC amp-meter, (must be DC), will test the current draw of the starter motor, on anything else you attempt to energize, that is DC in nature.
It would need to be clipped on the battery lead, or the positive (+) wire of what ever you are trying to take a load reading on.
Taking a negative(-) reading would work as well, but it wouldn't be as accurate in electronics.
By clipping a DC meter on the battery lead, and turning the key, the meter will indicate what the starter motor is drawing, or using.
If there is no fuse in the starter wire, and the starter is seized, or the engine is seized, then your DC amp-meter should indicate extremely high amperage. It would indicate what your battery is rated for, possibly several hundred amps! Keep that key turned long enough, with no fusing, that starter wire will get so hot, the wire will melt. If your motor is seized, you can seriously damage or destroy your starter, if there is no fusing.
If you put a DC voltmeter on those battery leads, while turning the key, a good battery will indicate 13-14 volts, irregardless if the starter motor or engine is seized.
If your engine is seized, the starter motor is obviously not able to turn either, and will therefore draw extremely high current, if there is no fusing.

An engine doesn't have impedance, it isn't a motor.
A DC motor doesn't have impedance, it has resistance.
Impedance relates to AC , not DC.
In DC, it's called resistance.
I said to put a DC amp meter on the battery.
A load tester will test your battery.
A DC amp-meter, will tell you how much load your starter is drawing.
Unless you can get at a wire, that goes to the starter, with your sled totally assembled, you can't use the amp-meter, to see what your starter is doing.

Hope this clarifies how to use a DC amp-meter, as opposed to a DC voltmeter, as opposed to a load tester.
Hope this clarifies that a load tester only tests the battery, and not the condition of anything else.

 

[J1635]

WOWSER
For you, I'll try to explain again, what I stated the first time I posted on this thread.
I don't think you know what you are talking about half the time.
I'll make a correction to almost everything you just stated.

A load tester will test the batteries capability of handling a load.
The load tester simulates a load by energizing an electric heating element (in most cases), in the load tester.
The load tester indicates the voltage of the battery, irregardless of whether or not you have a load applied.
With no load applied, the voltmeter should indicate 13-14 volts.
With the load applied, a good battery will still indicate 13-14 volts.

A load tester won't check anything else, but the battery.

A DC amp-meter, (must be DC), will test the current draw of the starter motor, on anything else you attempt to energize, that is DC in nature.
It would need to be clipped on the battery lead, or the positive (+) wire of what ever you are trying to take a load reading on.
Taking a negative(-) reading would work as well, but it wouldn't be as accurate in electronics.
By clipping a DC meter on the battery lead, and turning the key, the meter will indicate what the starter motor is drawing, or using.
If there is no fuse in the starter wire, and the starter is seized, or the engine is seized, then your DC amp-meter should indicate extremely high amperage. It would indicate what your battery is rated for, possibly several hundred amps! Keep that key turned long enough, with no fusing, that starter wire will get so hot, the wire will melt. If your motor is seized, you can seriously damage or destroy your starter, if there is no fusing.
If you put a DC voltmeter on those battery leads, while turning the key, a good battery will indicate 13-14 volts, irregardless if the starter motor or engine is seized.
If your engine is seized, the starter motor is obviously not able to turn either, and will therefore draw extremely high current, if there is no fusing.

An engine doesn't have impedance, it isn't a motor.
A DC motor doesn't have impedance, it has resistance.
Impedance relates to AC , not DC.
In DC, it's called resistance.
I said to put a DC amp meter on the battery.
A load tester will test your battery.
A DC amp-meter, will tell you how much load your starter is drawing.
Unless you can get at a wire, that goes to the starter, with your sled totally assembled, you can't use the amp-meter, to see what your starter is doing.

Hope this clarifies how to use a DC amp-meter, as opposed to a DC voltmeter, as opposed to a load tester.
Hope this clarifies that a load tester only tests the battery, and not the condition of anything else.

LOL actually no, it didnt. im glad you took all the time to write that up because i didnt even read it.

first and foremost i said he didnt have to disassemble the entire sled to check the battery with a load tester (which you immediately #*$&@ on and started talking about electrical meters for what?) and second i had said the starter was toast before he even said anything else so case closed right there, dont need to hear anything else from you thanks


and yes an engine IS a load electrically speaking, you are already wrong (stator)

if your strictly checking a battery you use a load tester, if your checking ANYTHING other then a battery you use a meter, which is exactly what i said, if your just here to #*$&@ on my posts then leave, no one has a gun to your head making you read them, 99% of stuff ive posted here im pretty sure is accurate, unless anyone else has anything to say, do you even own a sled or are you just trolling? > LOL i see you added the entire list of sleds youve blown up presumably to make us "give" you more credit, sorry guy i've had enough armchair lessons from you in this thread, peace

 

[Roger]

LOL actually no, it didnt. im glad you took all the time to write that up because i didnt even read it.

first and foremost i said he didnt have to disassemble the entire sled to check the battery with a load tester (which you immediately #*$&@ on and started talking about electrical meters for what?) and second i had said the starter was toast before he even said anything else so case closed right there, dont need to hear anything else from you thanks


and yes an engine IS a load electrically speaking, you are already wrong (stator)

if your strictly checking a battery you use a load tester, if your checking ANYTHING other then a battery you use a meter, which is exactly what i said, if your just here to #*$&@ on my posts then leave, no one has a gun to your head making you read them, 99% of stuff ive posted here im pretty sure is accurate, unless anyone else has anything to say, do you even own a sled or are you just trolling? > LOL i see you added the entire list of sleds youve blown up presumably to make us "give" you more credit, sorry guy i've had enough armchair lessons from you in this thread, peace

Your comments = enough said.
You probably don't understand that either.
Leave this site for adults to comment on.

 

[J1635]

Your comments = enough said.
You probably don't understand that either.
Leave this site for adults to comment on.

whered your big list of sleds go bro?

 

[engineman]

Back to the initial post:

Corey - might you have an update on what you found or might you have any additional questions?

Steve

 

[RtxViper]

Back to the initial post:

Corey - might you have an update on what you found or might you have any additional questions?

Steve

Yea i have the same problem would love to know what the problem was!