Advised needed

[Irv]

Giddy up I was out Saturday and after a run up the railbed of about 5kms I stopped and looked down because I could smell the sliders and my track was steaming.I run larger wheels(ski doo)and my slidders have over 2000Km on them now and are now down to the 10mm thickness .I run my long track tightened to almost yamaha specs.The snow was flying up behind me but not the best since our last warmup.I think the large wheel do help with slider wear.
Irv with that much track sag are you not worried that the track will balloon when you get up over 120 km/h and the studs touch the front exchanger when you slow down.I have lost a front exchanger because of running a loose track.

Sorry, just seeing this now HE.

I have checked and double checked for hit/wear marks and I have noticed any yet.

I think the ballooning would only happen at the upper mid point anyways and not at the front near the HX'r or I would notice ratcheting.
My tunnel protectors so far show zero hits/scuff marks and I get no ratcheting, but don't forget, my skid is only a 121 so it wouldn't balloon as much as a 136 or longer track to the length of it.
(probably too hard to see my sag in this pic?)

 

[Rich Kay]

Not tootin my horn here but I must be lucky..I have 6000 miles on my current standard slides?? Normal track tension,SLP slippery pads added to track, newer type spoked yamaha wheels, and mostly all in good snow conditions and the slides are not even near the wear line.

Rich
What exactly is the head - bolt of the anti wear pads made from?

They are of "some hardness" but just metal.

 

[yamajohn]

I wonder why no one uses ice scratchers? I've got 1600 miles on my 2013 xtx and have very little wear. I installed marginal wheel kit and an extra set of regular wheels where the holes in the rail are. I use the scratchers any time the conditions are tight. They are also great for keeping the engine temp down.

 

[heat exchange]

Giddy up I was out Saturday and after a run up the railbed of about 5kms I stopped and looked down because I could smell the sliders and my track was steaming.I run larger wheels(ski doo)and my slidders have over 2000Km on them now and are now down to the 10mm thickness .I run my long track tightened to almost yamaha specs.The snow was flying up behind me but not the best since our last warmup.I think the large wheel do help with slider wear.
Irv with that much track sag are you not worried that the track will balloon when you get up over 120 km/h and the studs touch the front exchanger when you slow down.I have lost a front exchanger because of running a loose track.

Sorry, just seeing this now HE.

I have checked and double checked for hit/wear marks and I have noticed any yet.

I think the ballooning would only happen at the upper mid point anyways and not at the front near the HX'r or I would notice ratcheting.
My tunnel protectors so far show zero hits/scuff marks and I get no ratcheting, but don't forget, my skid is only a 121 so it wouldn't balloon as much as a 136 or longer track to the length of it.
(probably too hard to see my sag in this pic?)

I can see the sag in the track.I used to have my other 06 Gt apex /121" that loose and I may have been going 140-160 kms/hour when I slowed down it took out the front exchanger .We were leaving CP Coops and everyone was brave The other thing I forgot to say was have you ever drill holes on your sliders to let snow into the holes to help with cooling them.

These sliders have 2100 kms on them.Just changed they last thursday and I didnt drill the new ones this time and now there dun with only 650 kms on them.The drilling holes seems to work.

 

[Rich Kay]

Drilling holes in your hyfax is not a good idea... one if it where they would come with holes allready in them . It takes away surface area and it allows dirt to fill the holes and wear your track clips out way sooner. Plus I have seen where it allows dirt to inter and compact around the slide rail itself making it very hard to slide them off to replace. This is something OEM's tried years ago and found it did not work.

 

[heat exchange]

Hey Rich what you are saying makes sense to me after all I am removing lots of hyfax when I drill all the holes in it.
I have tried it and I think that it real comes down to where you ride .Hey if I was sledding in new snow every day and not running roads to get gas or up the road that gets me home they would last almost forever.But from what I have observed is that the hole fill with snow /ice and when they get hot they release the snow and giving the lubrication that is missing.
I am not saying that it works in all condition but for me and the area I ride(Ontario)it has more then doubled the life of the hyfax.The reason I tried it the first place was the way I was going through 5 sets of hyfax each season of 5000 kms/3100mls.

 

[Rich Kay]

Thats cool...

 

[heat exchange]

New set going on tonight

Hope to finish the season with this set.

 

[sgauthier]

wow that's a lot of work. don't have that kind of time to sit there and drill all those holes. IMO, bigger idlers and marginal wheels work great and a lot less hassle.

 

[Grimm]

I tried the drilling holes in sliders trick a few years ago...didn't work for me. See my post here: http://www.ty4stroke.com/viewtopic.php? ... les#545562