Darren Betker
Expert
Because its the perfect hight for the perfect launch. Doing 100mph+ days are over for me but acceleration and traction are everything. Its my style of riding.
Rich Kay
TY 4 Stroke Guru
Ya.... I never bought my m-10 for the "launch" I read a lot about the characteristics of the m-10/ m20 before buying and it was about the ride not the weight transfer. Hum?
Darren Betker
Expert
I did my fair share of reading too but never saw the posts on poor transfer till after it was shipped. I guess i will have to talk to Brian at Fast again and see if theres anything else that can be done.
Redbeard
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- 2012 Apex, 136 M20, PB80
2008 Vector, 136 M20, PB80
I responded to your first M20 thread and mentioned less weight transfer, but you didn't even respond or acknowledge me, or anyone else that was trying to help you; not even the great advice with a mono recalibration. This was on March 30th, a full week before you abandoned that thread and started this one.
Here's the link, post #10:
https://ty4stroke.com/threads/06-apex-rear-makeover.157158/
The lessened weight transfer is the tradeoff for the awesome ride quality. It's not an issue for Team Fast, for me, or the thousands of other happy customers riding M suspensions. Then you proceed to say Team Fast neglected to mention this, when it's really your own fault for not doing your homework.
Does your skid look the same as the M20 pictured below? You've mentioned learning how to adjust your new skid, but there are NO adjustments on an M20, other than air pressure and limiter strap length. The older M10 springer and M10 air suspensions have a multitude of adjustments. The M10 and M20 have a few similarities, but they're very different from each other. Even their mounting locations are different. That's why it's imperative to discuss extrovert drivers. An M10 front arm will clear the drivers, while an M20 will not, without first relocating the front arm. If Team Fast didn't ask about extroverts, you either ordered an M10 air, or they are fully aware that your 2006 Apex did not come stock with extrovert drivers, and didn't find it necessary to ask.
Good luck!
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I know I mentioned this before, but I will say it again. When I received my m 20 in 07 it didn't come with a limiter strap. Brian said at the time it wasn't needed, that suspension had the coil over shock on the front arm. I couldn't even ride the sled around my field because I couldn't keep the skis on the ground. The sled was an 04 warrior.
Lower the pressure in the rear air shock, lengthen the limiter and hold on.
Lower the pressure in the rear air shock, lengthen the limiter and hold on.
Snorunner
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2017 Vector XTX
2001 Arctic Cat
What I would like to know. Is there a way to go with an M20 or King Air. With a 146 Singleshot suspension. Can the mounting holes be dragged back? Or do I need to just go with Hygears solution? I bought an M10 from David Karpick off e-bay. It was a 136 out of a Blade. Ohlin rear shock and titanium spring. Also titanium control arms. I finally got off my #*$&@ and installed it in my 2001 Cat. 2 years ago. Wow! Was he right! Hoping they have a solution for the Singleshot back breaking suspension that Yamaha won't fix because I bought Vectors not Apexes.
