twomorestrokes
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The last 2 posts are a refreshing change. Folks seem to love reading about other's sled problems lately.
Sorry Pimped, but I gotta agree with Welterracer. Thousands of miles on a nitrous equipped Rage and you love to jump it too, something's gonna break sooner or later. Part of the game.
And Yamaha1 raised some good points too. Everyone is demanding that new entries perform every single task with 100% efficiency and is better than any previous sled on the market, plus come equipped with every creature comfort imaginable. Big demands, no wonder sleds are nearing the $12,000 mark. Remote start, heated seats, onboard communicator system, all nice stuff but come on. IT'S A SLED. Do you NEED these things? I rode 2 seasons with a parts replacement cost of 25.00 for a used snow flap. Recently I broke down and bought a new rear skid shock. Oh well, I paid for a performance enhancement. I've been doing that with cars for the last 30 years.
Sorry for the comments from the Blue Underwear department. I know they aggravate some readers.
Sorry Pimped, but I gotta agree with Welterracer. Thousands of miles on a nitrous equipped Rage and you love to jump it too, something's gonna break sooner or later. Part of the game.
And Yamaha1 raised some good points too. Everyone is demanding that new entries perform every single task with 100% efficiency and is better than any previous sled on the market, plus come equipped with every creature comfort imaginable. Big demands, no wonder sleds are nearing the $12,000 mark. Remote start, heated seats, onboard communicator system, all nice stuff but come on. IT'S A SLED. Do you NEED these things? I rode 2 seasons with a parts replacement cost of 25.00 for a used snow flap. Recently I broke down and bought a new rear skid shock. Oh well, I paid for a performance enhancement. I've been doing that with cars for the last 30 years.
Sorry for the comments from the Blue Underwear department. I know they aggravate some readers.

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All sleds have thier issues, some more than others. I still feel for the money, Yamaha builds the best quality sled todate (Call me BLUE). I have an 05 Vector and the only parts todate that I replaced due to wear are Ski Carbides, Oil and Filter and Hyfax. 4000+ miles and still running strong. 

Groomerdriver
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You two guys (Oak and 2M) don't have the tinted blue skin like some others around here have. JUST KIDDING EVERYONE!!!
You guys are OK in my book!!!
Maybe the frustration lies in what seems to be the lack of pre-release testing done by ALL of the 4 snomo OEM's on their new iron. THey all have had their problems, some more serious than others (Doo rings or Poo FST issues for example). Maybe it's the one upsmanship that exists nowadays. Products are being brought to market too fast.
With all the new sled problems out there, I am thankful that mine are minor in relation to the problems on the other sleds. It still is frustrating to have problems when one is used to jumping on the sled and riding 3000 miles per year without a hitch. Seems like ALL of the sleds nowadays need too much tweaking to get them the way you want it.
Just my "Jim is calm totday" 2 cents!!!
You guys are OK in my book!!!

Maybe the frustration lies in what seems to be the lack of pre-release testing done by ALL of the 4 snomo OEM's on their new iron. THey all have had their problems, some more serious than others (Doo rings or Poo FST issues for example). Maybe it's the one upsmanship that exists nowadays. Products are being brought to market too fast.
With all the new sled problems out there, I am thankful that mine are minor in relation to the problems on the other sleds. It still is frustrating to have problems when one is used to jumping on the sled and riding 3000 miles per year without a hitch. Seems like ALL of the sleds nowadays need too much tweaking to get them the way you want it.
Just my "Jim is calm totday" 2 cents!!!

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jerry106 said:What are you refering to for $12,000 ?
I thought that Jag rang-up somewhere around 12 grand? No matter, I know it's closer to $12,000 than any RS. And for that kind of money, you may as well buy the big iron.
twomorestrokes
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I thought I read the same thing. Z1 comes in at eleven something SRP?
Tfin
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When your sled has issues, the grass is always going to be greener in other pastures....regardless of which "pasture" your in. Take a real hard look at some of the other "pastures" out there.
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Tfin said:When your sled has issues, the grass is always going to be greener in other pastures....regardless of which "pasture" your in. Take a real hard look at some of the other "pastures" out there.
True, but IMHO: Doo's pastures have never been green. Arctic Cat had a few ,well fertalized, green patches, but they died, and Polaris is now a land-fill. Yamaha's pasture keeps dying off in a few places from time to time too, despite the constant watering and fertilizing from my wallet.


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All I am saying is that the engineers have a goal of how they want a snowmobile to perform and function. If you use it the way it was designed to be used it will all work fine. If you mod it to the hilt because that is what YOU want then expect something to happen eventually. Don't blame the engineers and the company because they met their design goals and not your design goals.

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well i brought w arm to dealer and he said he couldnt do anything for a new w arm and there like $150 or somethin so i just told them to weld it up. the welds dont look pretty but there sure is a lot of weld tho so thats what i need.
oh and for the guy who said that the rage has no off trail capabilities-either u live in the mtns or ur sled isnt letting u ride it how itshould be rode in the powder.
oh and for the guy who said that the rage has no off trail capabilities-either u live in the mtns or ur sled isnt letting u ride it how itshould be rode in the powder.
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yamaha1 said:All I am saying is that the engineers have a goal of how they want a snowmobile to perform and function. If you use it the way it was designed to be used it will all work fine. If you mod it to the hilt because that is what YOU want then expect something to happen eventually. Don't blame the engineers and the company because they met their design goals and not your design goals.
If they met their design goals on this RS chassis they are even worse than I thought. This is supposed to be their groomed trail sled. It eats sliders bad unless you ride in 6" of fresh snow and has track howl so loud the guys ride with ear plugs.What design goals do you think they met other than a good motor.
twomorestrokes
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jerry106 said:It eats sliders bad unless you ride in 6" of fresh snow and has track howl so loud the guys ride with ear plugs...
Not true with everyone's sled. I'm not sure what's up with the hyfax wear versus skid setup, but many of us get thousands of miles out of a set. I can't tell you when the last time was that I've seen 6" of fresh snow on the trails, let alone being able to ride on it. Sure hasn't been this season in lower Michigan. Each time we got any amount of good snow I have had other family plans that excluded sledding. I've ridden more miles in snirt and bare ground this year than ever before in past winters. Last weekend the trails were so bare I expected to get passed by a dirt bike at any time.
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Maybe it is abrasive snow in Quebec or the way they groom the trails. I have talked to many RS owners while in Quebec and all have the same hyfax issues. Some guys on Ventures were only getting several hundred miles with dealer setup sleds. My Vector wore a set to paper thin in 750 miles. The Doo that was riding with me had 0 wear. I know you love to brag on Yamaha,but they missed the boat on these issues.
twomorestrokes
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Doesn't have anything to do with bragging, just like to post both sides of the issues. It is typical with any product to generate much more response from folks that are having problems with the product, where folks that are happy do not have a lot to say.
Unfortunately, I am not usually at a loss for words...
Unfortunately, I am not usually at a loss for words...



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Just don't generalize and say that because you know of some sleds that are not performing correctly that ALL RS sleds are junk. There are plenty of RS sleds out there that are working wonderfully. Some of your problems might be due to incorrect setups or incorrectly modded sleds. Please, if you have a probelm post it on here and hopefully we can all help out. That is why we are all here.
Also, don't just blind blame the engineers at Yamaha and say that they don't know what they are doing. If they made a perfect sled now how would they improve upon anything for next year.
Also, don't just blind blame the engineers at Yamaha and say that they don't know what they are doing. If they made a perfect sled now how would they improve upon anything for next year.
Groomerdriver
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jerry106 said:Maybe it is abrasive snow in Quebec or the way they groom the trails. I have talked to many RS owners while in Quebec and all have the same hyfax issues. Some guys on Ventures were only getting several hundred miles with dealer setup sleds. My Vector wore a set to paper thin in 750 miles. The Doo that was riding with me had 0 wear. I know you love to brag on Yamaha,but they missed the boat on these issues.
Don't you get it Jerry?? THese sleds are PERFECT. Hyfax wear? Wheel problems? Stator problems? TORS problems? Junk shock?? Cold ride? Harsh ride? Worthless windshields?? Handlebar heaters that barely work?? I know I'm missing somethings...
Jerry..these problems are all yours and everybodys elses imagination! Take it from the Yamaha Internet Promotion Team! THEY KNOW!
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