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Controversy, stud or dont stud


The rip saw is simply AWESOME. I have 2600 miles on a 136 " ripsaw and they just dont need studs. Don't forget there are other people riding the trails. These guys who tear around the icy corners just hanging in there with their studs :o| :o| :o| If the trails are that bad slow down a little. My brother got hit by a guy using the trail system for his race track. The incresed saftey is in your brain not you track. :ORC
 
Sparky,
Well, there you go. A few differant opinions.
I am going to run 96 1.375 right up the center.
I've only had a few pull through in the past 5 or 6 years and have bent a few in marginal conditions.
I usually put 2500-3000 miles a year on my sled.
If you ride on frozen lakes and or rivers like I do, I'd stud.

1CS
 
I used to never stud until 3 years ago. I tried it and liked it alot. Although i lost top end (noticibly), it was worth the trade off on my viper. That being said, i think i am going to wait and see with my RTX. Everyone knows the .92 Yoko track was bad even on snow but the ripsaw is a different story. The big draw backs i learned with studding is; rotating weight (you can tell with 144 studs)
and
track life

They are safer on icy trails which is a big plus and help you hook up on low snow lakes much better.

I have the same concerns, on a 1.25 track, that stud is going to be pretty tall. I am in a wait and see mode until it snows.
 
Wow! i have gone back and forth on the studs. In sufficient snow studs make no difference. In icy conditions they are definately a must. They definately are safer in icy conditions. i currently do not use studs because of the related costs involved. damage to track, trailer, garage floor, driveway, heat exchanger, etc... on icy trails it they can save your life. Even when being safe, you may be on the trail with other A-holes who are not as safety minded.

I will be riding my first 136" tracked sled this year and cant wait to see how it tracks. never tried the rip saw but used the conical lug track and it is awesome. Havent really needed studs since this addition
 
There's only one question here to ask. Who here on this board can see the ice buried under the 1-2 inches of snow? Studs are a must. Even if you have as little as 48 will help out somewhat. I ride pretty hard in the groomed trails and I carry alot different speeds from an average of 50-70 mph and an excess of over a 100 at times. With the 1.25 ripsaw, 96 1.325 megabytes studs, and 8" executive series studs, that will be all the traction I will need.
 
You can sure tell the guys that haven't come into an icy corner before. There's no worse feeling in the world then the helpless feeling you get once you realize you aren't slowing down the least bit and tree's are coming into view very quickly and you need to decide which one will hurt less :ORC
 
PS Don't give me that crap about drive to the conditions because you never know when a situation like an icy corner is going to come up :ORC :ORC :ORC
 
Well if you are at a safe speed going into a corner safely there is nothing to worry about as you are probably not going fast enough to hurt yourself or even roll the sled. People going to fast may the problem more so than the safety issue. People who have them probably feel they can travel faster becasue of them.
 
Sled Dog, lets see you go down a hill or better yet stop in the middle of a hill without studs. It's safety first, reguardless of the speed.
 
Rotax! said:
Sled Dog, lets see you go down a hill or better yet stop in the middle of a hill without studs. It's safety first, reguardless of the speed.
Rotax,

Why would you stop in the middle of a hill?? would you stop in the middle of a interstate with people flyin 70 MPH??? Safety first, pull off the side of the road or trail off the groomed sectioned and everyone is safe.
 
Why would you want to stop in the middle of a hill?

I rode for the first time last year without studs. I decided to try it last year because I extended to 136" I thought it would help to retain some top end. Until then I always ran 192 studs. I don't plan on studding this year either. I only remember needing studs one time last year, and that was riding up an icy driveway on the TY ride. Slid through a corner, bounced off a snow bank, no big deal. I see it as 99% of the time I won't need them, and as long as I don't panic and do something dumb during that 1% it won't be a problem.

When I ride ice I ride my Vmax-4 with 240 chisels. No studs in the trail sled for me.
 


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