Mikey
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
If its Dominion of Canada or Wawanesa they both have policys in place for submursion in which case they both automaticly write them off regardless of repairability. They dont like repairing sleds at all and prefer to wave liability . I work closely with them on salvage cases and basicly when A diver is brought in the vechile is written off.
JDKRXW
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
If this is the case, then I would make darn sure there was damage to the engine before making a claim....... you're going to pay big cake in future premiums (plus your deductible) for this total loss, when in reality, the repair could be way cheaper.
Ski-Dog
Expert
First its my experience two stokes survive water damage much more than 4 strokes. Even if running at idle that engine has a very good chance of hydrolock and severe damage.
As far as water racers go they have a tether that is pulled prior to the sled going down. The engine is killed just before it goes under. We lost a groomer in the ice a few years ago which was idling when it went dowm and severe engine damage resulted. Some boys plowing a track on the ice this winter dropped a bobcat through and it locked so bad the rod blew out the side of the block. These are bigger displacement engines but the result could be the same.
You may be lucky without severe engine damage but the sled will never be the same. Parts will not last as long and electrical problems are routine.
As far as water racers go they have a tether that is pulled prior to the sled going down. The engine is killed just before it goes under. We lost a groomer in the ice a few years ago which was idling when it went dowm and severe engine damage resulted. Some boys plowing a track on the ice this winter dropped a bobcat through and it locked so bad the rod blew out the side of the block. These are bigger displacement engines but the result could be the same.
You may be lucky without severe engine damage but the sled will never be the same. Parts will not last as long and electrical problems are routine.
LazyBastard
TY 4 Stroke God
1) Bullpoop
2) Those are diesel engines you're talking about damaging. Their compression is high enough that even high HUMIDITY can cause engine damage.
3) lock at idle can't cause any damage. There is not enough inertia so that instant lock will exceed the stress limits of any of the components.
2) Those are diesel engines you're talking about damaging. Their compression is high enough that even high HUMIDITY can cause engine damage.
3) lock at idle can't cause any damage. There is not enough inertia so that instant lock will exceed the stress limits of any of the components.
ReX
TY 4 Stroke God
Ski-Dog said:First its my experience two stokes survive water damage much more than 4 strokes. Even if running at idle that engine has a very good chance of hydrolock and severe damage.
As far as water racers go they have a tether that is pulled prior to the sled going down. The engine is killed just before it goes under. We lost a groomer in the ice a few years ago which was idling when it went dowm and severe engine damage resulted. Some boys plowing a track on the ice this winter dropped a bobcat through and it locked so bad the rod blew out the side of the block. These are bigger displacement engines but the result could be the same.
You may be lucky without severe engine damage but the sled will never be the same. Parts will not last as long and electrical problems are routine.
We haven't had any problems with hydrolocking 4-strokes at idle, even big 454 Chevy's bored out to 472 and running radical cams. Even the guys running lots of throttle when they go under often get away without damage as long as they let go of the throttle as soon as the engine starts to missfire (from breathing water - ignition systems work fine under water if setup right).
I believe you are talking about diesels, without an intake throttle. A diesel would be a prime candidate for major damage if running while going under.
Roadrunner
Expert
Ski-Dog
Expert
O.K. I'm full of bullpoop
At least I'm not full of lazy bullpoop.
At least I'm not full of lazy bullpoop.
kinghooker
Newbie
Well we drained the oil 3 times so far and the engine runs. Even the speedo works. I couldn't believe how much water came out of the cylinders 2 plugs were dry and 2 were wet. I'm waiting for the insurance to make a call if they want to chance it I guess they'll replace my rear skid bearings and a new seat but I'm waiting. Sure don't want to break down in the boonies on a cold winter night next winter.
ReX
TY 4 Stroke God
kinghooker said:Well we drained the oil 3 times so far and the engine runs. Even the speedo works. I couldn't believe how much water came out of the cylinders 2 plugs were dry and 2 were wet. I'm waiting for the insurance to make a call if they want to chance it I guess they'll replace my rear skid bearings and a new seat but I'm waiting. Sure don't want to break down in the boonies on a cold winter night next winter.
Assuming you've changed the fuel, chaincase oil, etc. I would take it for a decent run to bring the engine up to temperature.
If you end up keeping it you'll want to minimize the risk of leaving water in the engine, exhaust, etc.
LazyBastard
TY 4 Stroke God
There is no more water in any of the skid bearings than there would be by driving it through slush.
JDKRXW
TY 4 Stroke Junkie
kinghooker said:. I couldn't believe how much water came out of the cylinders
Probably about 250 cc each
I'd forget about the insurance claim, remove the seat cover for the summer (or until the foam dries out), and as LB says, changing skid bearings is a waste of time (and $).
..... don't forget to drain the chaincase and the toolbox.
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