QCRider
TY 4 Stroke Master
I know that the Rip Saw track should hook up better than the "Finger Track" from the '03 models, but I have a question about how much top end difference there is between the two. Is the Finger Track faster than the 1.25" Rip Saw? I would expect it to be slightly faster since it is typeical that when the lugs get longer top speed suffers. Does anyone have some real world experience to share on this subject?
LazyBastard
TY 4 Stroke God
I noticed no appreciable difference going from the stock 9855 to the 9833 (block 1.25"), when that blew, I switched to a 9923 (ripsaw 144"), and actually experienced a top end INCREASE of about 2 mph from the 9833. Ripsaw is a FAST track.
The ripsaw is a good track, but it does have more noise than a 6-pitch.
Both the 6-pitch and the ripsaw are much better tracks than a finger track.
The 6-pitch is my favorite trail track. It is available in many paddle heights also.
Both the 6-pitch and the ripsaw are much better tracks than a finger track.
The 6-pitch is my favorite trail track. It is available in many paddle heights also.
race24x
TY 4 Stroke Master
If I am looking for better hook up but ride on mostly groomed trails what track would be best and what paddle hieght? I have 03 shorty with the finger track it doesnt hook up at all.
LazyBastard
TY 4 Stroke God
You for sure want a 1.25, longtracking it will help CONSIDERABLY. Ripsaw is *excellent* on trail.
Either 6- pitch or ripsaw would be excellent choices for groomed trail riding.
Ripsaw is avail. 1.25" only, 6-pitch is avail. 1" or 1.25", or more if you wanted.
I would get the 1.25" 6-pitch for groomed trail riding personally.
Ripsaw is avail. 1.25" only, 6-pitch is avail. 1" or 1.25", or more if you wanted.
I would get the 1.25" 6-pitch for groomed trail riding personally.
race24x
TY 4 Stroke Master
Thanks I will probably do this as part of my upgrading for next year. I hate to because mine is just about new very few miles 144 carbide tip trail studs with backing plates. I will have to do all of that again and I hate studding my track.
Focker
Pro
I absolutely love my 136 Ripsaw...hooks up amazing! I dont really think you get any top end loss with this track, I hit 122 on the dream meter and I am geared down 2 teeth. Best I got last year with the stock shorty track was 129. I definately recommend the Ripsaw!
DYNAREX
Expert
the ripsaw takes a little more power to spin up top than a 6 pith or finger but the hookup is so much better youll probably increase top end
theres nothing better than a 9837 6pitch all around
the finger track is useless-thats part of the reason the speedo is so far off because of the track spin at top end
theres nothing better than a 9837 6pitch all around
the finger track is useless-thats part of the reason the speedo is so far off because of the track spin at top end
ESKIMO
Extreme
Hey Power, You explained that the pitch of a track is the distance between the inner track lugs, with standard pretty well across the board of 2.52".
What is this 6 pitch talk now? I still don't get it.
Thanks,
Eskimo
What is this 6 pitch talk now? I still don't get it.
Thanks,
Eskimo
DYNAREX
Expert
6 pitch is the lug pattern-as opposed to finger or ripsaw
go to www.camoplast.com and ck them out
go to www.camoplast.com and ck them out
LazyBastard
TY 4 Stroke God
DYNAREX said:the ripsaw takes a little more power to spin up top than a 6 pith or finger but the hookup is so much better youll probably increase top end
theres nothing better than a 9837 6pitch all around
the finger track is useless-thats part of the reason the speedo is so far off because of the track spin at top end
I don't agree that ripsaw takes more power to spin. Ripsaw is the same pattern, just with what amounts to "cutouts". I went from a 121" 9833 to a 144" 9923 and GAINED speed on top. That would seem to suggest that ripsaw is much EASIER to spin on top, it more than compensated for a 23" increase in length.
DYNAREX
Expert
LB
ive run the 9833 and the 136 ripsaw on track dynos
the ripsaw peaked at 82 track hp the 9833 was 85hp
i think the reason you saw higher top end was because of the increase traction?
ive run the 9833 and the 136 ripsaw on track dynos
the ripsaw peaked at 82 track hp the 9833 was 85hp
i think the reason you saw higher top end was because of the increase traction?
LazyBastard
TY 4 Stroke God
Change in trach horsepower is purely a function of friction caused by not being fully broken in and by excessive tension. It may also be a function of the ripsaw not being fully clipped, which would increase resistance on a stand, but may DECREASE resistance in the snow. Higher traction will NOT increase top end, only how fast you get there. BTW: thats not exactly a fair comparison since you are comparing a 121" to a 136". Its also unfair due to inconsistencies between tests - either time between tests while swapping the track, or between the actual output of the sled that its mounted on (if they were on two sleds)... Even more, if the 136" was on a Warrior, then you also have gearing and clutching differences.
Whatever LB we all know in your mind you are never wrong.
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