I'm shopping Vipers for 2015. From what I've heard, the Floats are not exceptionally friendly to trail riding so the conventional springs are better. I'm wondering if the RC2's give the added dimension of smooth trail ride that the std floats lack? And then are they worth the $$$ over coil overs?
In my opinion save your money or buy mine and I am going to try the axis coil overs for next season. I have been constantly changing mine and now have trail friendly set up but still harsh on nose landings on jumps. My wrists are sore after a 240 mile day to the point that I can hardly ride the next day.
My high & low speed adjusters are 2 clicks from full soft. I have never run the stock shocks and may try that first. I did run through about 11 miles of tight twisties with 1 to 2 ft chop at high speed on Saturday night and the skis did stay under me and there was no fade. I did miss the timing on a few and the feed back to the bars was pretty rough on my hands but not sure it would have been better on the Axis or not. When you let air out of the main chamber and 2nd tubes the ride is better but I gain a lot of ski lift in the corners.
My high & low speed adjusters are 2 clicks from full soft. I have never run the stock shocks and may try that first. I did run through about 11 miles of tight twisties with 1 to 2 ft chop at high speed on Saturday night and the skis did stay under me and there was no fade. I did miss the timing on a few and the feed back to the bars was pretty rough on my hands but not sure it would have been better on the Axis or not. When you let air out of the main chamber and 2nd tubes the ride is better but I gain a lot of ski lift in the corners.
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TD Max said:I'm shopping Vipers for 2015. From what I've heard, the Floats are not exceptionally friendly to trail riding so the conventional springs are better. I'm wondering if the RC2's give the added dimension of smooth trail ride that the std floats lack? And then are they worth the $$$ over coil overs?
If your going to ride hard and jump and hit the bigger bumps, the float 3' do a pretty good job. Bit for all around riding I would go with a good coil springs! Mine are pretty good for trail riding, but sometimes I wish I had the ability to adjust. So some clickers are the ticket, if I'm going to keep this sled.
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You could always get them revalved to what you want just like a coil over.
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To be honest they are great shocks! But really made for abuse, not trail riding. Now yes you can set them up for trail riding. Fox float Evol's are made to take a pounding. Lots of adjustments and it will take some time to get them to your liking. But for a nice trail ride you would take some of your ride height out. And have to lower the front. Unless they are set up really stiff, which would work for jumping. I have had a few conversations about these shocks. And yes they look bad #*$&@!! Bit for trail riding I think it's a waste of money. Get yourself a really good set do coil shocks with clickers and you can adjust on the fly. In 30 seconds you could change all four shocks with clickers. No air shocks. Would take more time! Coil shocks are the way to go. Plus if a coil over shock goes out you can still make a trip out of it. If a air shock goes out your kind of screwed. The coil would still hold your sled up and give some ability to continue on. JMO
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YamahaTim said:To be honest they are great shocks! But really made for abuse, not trail riding. Now yes you can set them up for trail riding. Fox float Evol's are made to take a pounding. Lots of adjustments and it will take some time to get them to your liking. But for a nice trail ride you would take some of your ride height out. And have to lower the front. Unless they are set up really stiff, which would work for jumping. I have had a few conversations about these shocks. And yes they look bad #*$&@!! Bit for trail riding I think it's a waste of money. Get yourself a really good set do coil shocks with clickers and you can adjust on the fly. In 30 seconds you could change all four shocks with clickers. No air shocks. Would take more time! Coil shocks are the way to go. Plus if a coil over shock goes out you can still make a trip out of it. If a air shock goes out your kind of screwed. The coil would still hold your sled up and give some ability to continue on. JMO
I want to switch to coil overs as well. Do you know who makes a good coil over that fits this chasis?
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Try Hygear Suspension, highly rated but a bit pricy. They build Custom Axis Pro shocks.
If you intend to keep the sled for more than a few year then not so bad. You can always keep them when you sell and have them modified for your new sled for a much lower cost.
Call them and ask for Jon. That's not a typo correct spelling is Jon not John.
Mine will be delivered the end of march. So probably will not get any time on them this year.
If you intend to keep the sled for more than a few year then not so bad. You can always keep them when you sell and have them modified for your new sled for a much lower cost.
Call them and ask for Jon. That's not a typo correct spelling is Jon not John.
Mine will be delivered the end of march. So probably will not get any time on them this year.
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Go find a set of the Fox Zero Pro shocks off a 2012-2013 Cat
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TestMaster said:Try Hygear Suspension, highly rated but a bit pricy. They build Custom Axis Pro shocks.
If you intend to keep the sled for more than a few year then not so bad. You can always keep them when you sell and have them modified for your new sled for a much lower cost.
Call them and ask for Jon. That's not a typo correct spelling is Jon not John.
Mine will be delivered the end of march. So probably will not get any time on them this year.
what kind of price tag?
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newtron said:TestMaster said:Try Hygear Suspension, highly rated but a bit pricy. They build Custom Axis Pro shocks.
If you intend to keep the sled for more than a few year then not so bad. You can always keep them when you sell and have them modified for your new sled for a much lower cost.
Call them and ask for Jon. That's not a typo correct spelling is Jon not John.
Mine will be delivered the end of march. So probably will not get any time on them this year.
what kind of price tag?
Many options available, including Titanium springs, triple spring, triple adjustable, 2 compression and one rebound adjustment. Choose some all or none, remote resivoirs are standard. Their website has prices.
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I must be the only one but I love the way my front end works just the way it is, seems much better than the rear to be honest. I think that the floats work very well for trail riding.
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Its not handling to bad but I know my base apex with coil overs handles better than the SE with floats.
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newtron said:Its not handling to bad but I know my base apex with coil overs handles better than the SE with floats.
We own two vipers:
Viper 1 is a base LTX with coil spring and 1350 miles, rides like a dream, ridden by my wife 139 lbs. She quit riding for a couple years until a 12 mile ride on this sled put her back in the saddle. She rode 130+ miles in an afternoon last Thursday and was like a kid when we got home.
Viper 2 is a LTX SE with Fox Float 3 shocks and 631 miles that my wife bought for me on Valentines day out of guilt for taking Viper 1. After 600 miles the Floats have loosened up significantly and if I didn't have Viper 1 I might be satisfied with trying to fine tune the Floats to get a little more compliance out of them without degrading other performance characteristics.
I can drive Viper 1, the spring front suspension base model, for 130 miles and feel nearly as fresh at the end as at the beginning of the ride. My wrists and forearms ached after the same 130 mile ride on Viper 2 the LTX SE. We will keep these sleds for many years performing a few enhancements each year. Next year both Vipers will get the new 2015 Viper brake lever that is parallel with the handle bar and does not angle away from the handlebar like the current brake lever. much easier to reach and apply the brake. With 6 inch Stud Boy Deuce Bars installed on both sleds darting and corner push are significantly reduced in almost all situations and nearly eliminated in normal trail conditions.
Deerhuntr is correct about the rear suspension, it also need work, and I'll address that when the season is over.
http://hygearsuspension.com/CustomAxis.html
http://hygearsuspension.com/CustomAxis_ProCrossF.html
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