White & Nerdy
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I should probably clarify, I don't plan to ride bumps all day, but I do plan to ride all day on whatever conditions the trails are in. I don't jump or plan on "ditch banging". I also don't plan to ride off trail.A "like new" 2013 Vector would be an awesome groomed trail sled, very dependable and fun to ride, but IMO it is not the kind of sled that I would want to "ride all day on the bumps." I rode a Vector for several years, and my wife still has her 2013 (loves the power steering), but they are not rough trail sleds. I switched to a Viper, and now a Sidewinder, and if you are riding rough trails, there is no comparison. Set up right, the Pro Cross chassis is the sled you want to be on at the end of the day when the trails are beat.
The other thing I should mention, is I am 6'4" and 230 pounds. I don't fit on my current sled very well, but I've made do with a taller windshield and a riser for the handle bars. Any of these sleds better than the other for someone my size?
Thanks for the replies guys
theCATman
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I should probably clarify, I don't plan to ride bumps all day, but I do plan to ride all day on whatever conditions the trails are in. I don't jump or plan on "ditch banging". I also don't plan to ride off trail.
The other thing I should mention, is I am 6'4" and 230 pounds. I don't fit on my current sled very well, but I've made do with a taller windshield and a riser for the handle bars. Any of these sleds better than the other for someone my size?
Thanks for the replies guys
Sounds like a '10-up Vector or any year Apex/Attak is right for you.
I'd also HIGHLY recommend an LTX. Screw a 121", get a 136". Much nice ride and better traction with the big torque these 4s engines make.
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74Nitro
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At 6'4 you definitely want the Viper. Otherwise you'll be sitting on the trunk portion of the seat on a Vector.I should probably clarify, I don't plan to ride bumps all day, but I do plan to ride all day on whatever conditions the trails are in. I don't jump or plan on "ditch banging". I also don't plan to ride off trail.
The other thing I should mention, is I am 6'4" and 230 pounds. I don't fit on my current sled very well, but I've made do with a taller windshield and a riser for the handle bars. Any of these sleds better than the other for someone my size?
Thanks for the replies guys
theCATman
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^... ummm not hardly. I'm 6'4", 235 and no where NEAR that far back. Ever. Lol. I couldn't even reach the bars sitting at or near the trunk.
I'm not saying the Viper or the Vector/Apex chassis is a wrong choice, but don't sling BS just because.
I'm not saying the Viper or the Vector/Apex chassis is a wrong choice, but don't sling BS just because.
White & Nerdy
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Thanks guys. I guess I'll have to sit on a viper and a vector to see what's comfortable.
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I am not knocking the AC Procross chassis, I have ridden my buddy's 2016 SR Viper and personally prefer the Deltabox chassis much more IMHO.Thanks guys. I guess I'll have to sit on a viper and a vector to see what's comfortable.
The AC chassis has some service issues, no more/less then the Deltabox but feel it is much easier to work on the Deltabox over the AC Procross. If you can, sit on both, look over the serviceability factor if doing your own service/maintenance and make an informed decision.
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I know that there are die hard delta box fans, and I appreciate that, and I absolutely loved my Vector, but the honest truth is that after a long day on my Vector, unless I was in Quebec where they seem to groom the trails constantly, I would be pretty "beat up." The riding position on the Vector was such that if I hit the hard bumps wrong, it would "telegraph" up my back, and it hurt. That has not happened on my Viper or Sidewinder. Since I have gone to the Pro Cross, the beat up trails that are inevitable as the day goes on do not bother me anywhere near as much. I did a bunch of 200+ mile days last season, with the longest being over 270 miles, and never felt beat up, despite being 68 years old. My wife loves her Vector, and will never give it up, but she will only ride early in the day, before the trails get roughed up. If you plan on long days on the sled, or multiple long days, the upright riding position of the Pro Cross chassis is going to be much more comfortable.
The procross chassis on the Viper and sidewinder is the way to go for longer more aggressive rides. The delta box (older chassis) is A great solid trail sled as well. But, it is heavy,front ends push more and they are nose heavy more so than the procross chassis. There is no right or wrong choice. Its up to personal needs and riding style. Good luck in your search for A fun winter. One more thing when searching for A used sled, millage does matter on used sleds. The 4 stroke motor will last A very long time we all know this, however,the track, bearings, bushings,shocks, clutch,and all the rest will need to be serviced or replaced in a machine with high miles. This can add up to alot of money in a hurry!
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White and Nerdy, did you pick one yet?
White & Nerdy
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No, I'm kind of leaning towards the viper. I've been watching craigslist, snowmobile trader, etc, but most of the sleds on there that are in my price range have a lot of miles or have been wrecked.White and Nerdy, did you pick one yet?
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https://antigoyamaha.com/Snowmobile...ntigo-WI-3a92a9bd-5811-4187-866e-aa7d0176a6b3No, I'm kind of leaning towards the viper. I've been watching craigslist, snowmobile trader, etc, but most of the sleds on there that are in my price range have a lot of miles or have been wrecked.
Nice Viper , check out the link
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Wannaviper
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I wouldn't worry about the Viper engine if the sled has a lot of miles as long as it has been properly maintained. The question would be how hard the prior owner was on the sled. We bought my grandson's Viper XTX used with @6,500 miles, and it has over 10,000 miles on it now. The engine is stronger than ever. It could use a new track, and we pretty much had to rebuild the rear skid (bearings, rails etc.) last year; however, I think those are both the result of the prior owner riding the sled really hard and not paying attention to the routine maintenance items.No, I'm kind of leaning towards the viper. I've been watching craigslist, snowmobile trader, etc, but most of the sleds on there that are in my price range have a lot of miles or have been wrecked.
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I wouldn't worry about the Viper engine if the sled has a lot of miles as long as it has been properly maintained. The question would be how hard the prior owner was on the sled. We bought my grandson's Viper XTX used with @6,500 miles, and it has over 10,000 miles on it now. The engine is stronger than ever. It could use a new track, and we pretty much had to rebuild the rear skid (bearings, rails etc.) last year; however, I think those are both the result of the prior owner riding the sled really hard and not paying attention to the routine maintenance items.
Hope it wasn't my XTX!
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