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603NytroXTX said:I have seen multiple guys "shimming" their simmons gen 3's. What is the purpose of this? Wouldnt you lose a good amount of ski float from this? I ride about 50/50 hard pack and off trail.
Check this web site
I haven't tried this myself yet but will do it before the winter. It should be a cheap and easy mod and if the article is anything to go by, it helps darting drastically.
I can't see why you would loose floatation.
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603NytroXTX said:I have seen multiple guys "shimming" their simmons gen 3's. What is the purpose of this? Wouldnt you lose a good amount of ski float from this? I ride about 50/50 hard pack and off trail.
Check this web site
I haven't tried this myself yet but will do it before the winter. It should be a cheap and easy mod and if the article is anything to go by, it helps darting drastically.
I can't see why you would loose floatation.
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603NytroXTX said:I have seen multiple guys "shimming" their simmons gen 3's. What is the purpose of this? Wouldnt you lose a good amount of ski float from this? I ride about 50/50 hard pack and off trail.
Check this and this.
I haven't shimmed my sled myself yet but will do before this season. If it works as stated it should be an easy and cheap fix.
I can't see why you would loose floatation by shimming.
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Ohhhhhh. Okay. I was very misinformed. I had seen some type of writeup on someone who was literally trimming down the back end of his ski's significantly. I guess i have some important terminology mixed up. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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Sorry for the multiple posts :-D
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birkebeiner said:Sorry for the multiple posts :-D
Thats okay. I thought you might have just gotten a little excited!!!

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603NytroXTX said:Ohhhhhh. Okay. I was very misinformed. I had seen some type of writeup on someone who was literally trimming down the back end of his ski's significantly. I guess i have some important terminology mixed up. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
You are correct. I have also seen something about trimming the back end of their powder hound skis for better mountain performance.
I believe Chris Brown does this on his sleds.
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Dimebag said:603NytroXTX said:Ohhhhhh. Okay. I was very misinformed. I had seen some type of writeup on someone who was literally trimming down the back end of his ski's significantly. I guess i have some important terminology mixed up. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
You are correct. I have also seen something about trimming the back end of their powder hound skis for better mountain performance.
I believe Chris Brown does this on his sleds.
Now that i think about it. If he does it for mountain performance gains I bet it would help sidehilling. Possibly help the back end of the ski cut in a bit more while the front still has float. I was thinking that trimming the back off would be for some type of trail performance modification.
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Shimming and trimming are two different things. you shouldn't have to shim Gen3 because of the dual keel design. Now triming the back of the ski is something that some people swear by. Most people say it helps with side hilling but the jury is still out on the benefits in my opinion. I would use the skies first to see if they work for you. I am not a fan of ruining a $400 pair of skies to try something that another guys says works great. In reality the gen 3 ski is only 1/2 to 1' wider at the spindle then the stock skies to begin with so i really dont see you gaining much of anything by trimming the back of the ski down. They work well on the trail but they really shine off trail. They will give you a workout at slow speeds on icy trails becasue of the double keel.
BTW under the technical pages section on main TY web page there is an article that explains how to shim skies if you really want to know how to SHIM skies. If you do a search in the Mountain forum on GEN 3 you should be able to find pictures of how to TRIM Gen 3 Skies as well
BTW under the technical pages section on main TY web page there is an article that explains how to shim skies if you really want to know how to SHIM skies. If you do a search in the Mountain forum on GEN 3 you should be able to find pictures of how to TRIM Gen 3 Skies as well
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bholmlate said:Shimming and trimming are two different things. you shouldn't have to shim Gen3 because of the dual keel design. Now triming the back of the ski is something that some people swear by. Most people say it helps with side hilling but the jury is still out on the benefits in my opinion. I would use the skies first to see if they work for you. I am not a fan of ruining a $400 pair of skies to try something that another guys says works great. In reality the gen 3 ski is only 1/2 to 1' wider at the spindle then the stock skies to begin with so i really dont see you gaining much of anything by trimming the back of the ski down. They work well on the trail but they really shine off trail. They will give you a workout at slow speeds on icy trails becasue of the double keel.
BTW under the technical pages section on main TY web page there is an article that explains how to shim skies if you really want to know how to SHIM skies. If you do a search in the Mountain forum on GEN 3 you should be able to find pictures of how to TRIM Gen 3 Skies as well
Fantastic! Thanks for clearing that up for me. I agree with you completely. I would never dream of cutting up my new skies untill i tried them out. Even then i would probably sell before cutting them. Anyways, thanks for the explanation.
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As they say picture are worth a few words
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so everyone knows what we are talking about here. I barrowed these off another forum
here is a link to shimming article on TY
http://www.totallyamaha.com/snowmobiles ... r_Shim.htm
make it easy for everyone
so everyone knows what we are talking about here. I barrowed these off another forum
here is a link to shimming article on TY
http://www.totallyamaha.com/snowmobiles ... r_Shim.htm
make it easy for everyone

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Perfect. Thank Bholmlate! That exactly what i was looking for. 

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