How do you learn to ride in the mountains?

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I am a flat lander rider.. but have been very curious how people learn to ride so well in the mountains.. Especially on the RX-1..

I personally have ROLLED my rx warrior 3 times just trying to ditchbang my sled like i did with my old viper.. The sled is Extremely top heavy and takes almost nothing to cause it to lean or roll! When it rolls even once it destroys the handlbars$40 and gauge pod $90 every time!!

THe guys on the yamaha extrem sledding vidios make it look so easy..

Ive been invited to go out west three times now and have declined to go because i am scared of the weight of my sled on a hill!


I would apprecialte any input!!

Thanks!
 
You learn by just going for it! The best way is to find someone that is a descent rider and follow them everywhere they go. Do everything they do. If they stand, you stand. If they move to one side you move to one side. If they pick their nose....... you tell them that is GROSS!! Then you do it too. :D

Come out for the McCall ride if Feb. We'll take good care of you. If we can put up with Gramps the we can handle you.
 
Like someone told me a short time ago, welcome to the dark side! The very first and most important thing you have to remember, is once you go big hills, you wont want to ride flat anymore.

I am neither a pro nor new, have learned tons in the last 6 years riding big, and strive to learn more every time I go.

1-HAVE ALL THE SAFETY GEAR- BEACON, PROBE, SHOVEL, BACKPACK WITH SMALL ESSENTIALS, WATER, SOME FOOD, MATCHES, RESCUE BLANKET IS NICE, GPS, CELL PHONE.

2- ROOKIES NEVER EVER RIDE ALONE IN THE MOUNTAINS, hook up with guys that know the area.

When you are trailing up to the cabin, before the summit, dont be an #*$&@. Ride safe, dont race, remember you are sharing a tight trail with other apes (Nothing personal Grapeape) that are out to prove something. Save the fun for the summit.

Make sure, that you sign in, sign out at the cabin. EVERY cabin in BC that I have been to, and I am sure its the same at all mountain riding areas have them, has a clock and a book, so members know everyone got off the mountain safely.

Be very aware that avalanches occur in the mountains, many die every year. I strongly reccomend an avalanche awareness course.

Once you get to the summit, and into the play zones, up top, its all as scary as you want to be. Check with locals about differing areas, they will know the dangerous and the easy routes. Dropping down into areas can be a very bad idea, if you see one set of tracks going down a steep drop, its likely that you may be walking out, or helicoptering, like the last guy that went where he shouldnt have.

I have ridden with guys that are simply amazing, can climb everything, and shoot up through trees without hesitation, no matter how steep. I have also ridden with people that were scared to death on the trail to the cabin. Dont get too wound up, just again, be aware of the dangers.

If you are thinking of taking a pull at a hill, watch where the other guys are going, make sure you try to stay out of the coffins dug by others. Climbing a hill, with a sled wound out, and hitting a 5' deep hole on a 30 degree slope can throw you off the sled, at the very least, more likely to break stuff if you have speed. A lot of climbs have a huge dip at the bottom, a huge run up to the hill can be disasterous, take a look before you velcro the throttle.

Watch other guys, there are a lot of ways to carve hills, many will switch from one side to the other, keeping one side of the track in the air to keep the snow cleared out, others will velcro their asses to the seat and hold WOT until they either clear the hill, or trench down to the running boards and die on the hill. I always like to hit a few little climbs before going to the big stuff, climb until you feel track speed and momentum slowing, then get on the high side and turn out, back down the hill. On a 2 stroke, I always tried to stay on the left side of the sled, turn out right to keep the exhaust out of the snow. I also like to hop from one side to the other, and rarely sit on the seat while climbing. If you hit something seated, your back gets the hell beat out of it, if standing your legs are the shock absorbers. If you make it to the BC mountains, you may find snow that will blow your mind, 4' of fresh every day on Boulder, Revelstoke. I like playing in the meadows and trees as much as climbing, spinning cookies on the rx1 is a blast. You will find that counter steering; lean left, handlebars hard right to turn left in deep snow is a a real hoot. Sometimes, when you are climbing, and feel you are going to lose speed and get stuck, try burping the throttle or letting off the gas, less spin may get you back on top, at least until you can turn out and go down hill.

I am going in a week or 2, want to meet me in Revelstoke? hehe
 
Kenny nailed it & 3 main tips for rookies
1) throttle is your friend in deep snow
2) (counter steer) Turn your skiis the opposite way you want to turn in deep snow!
3) get your butt off the seat!!!!!
 
good info here already. If you have never rode the mtns start small to get the feel for your sled . throttle is your best freind in the mtns. I`m not much of a typer but if you want to talk pm and will give you my number.

enjoy the mtns, once you go Steep&deep (my movie hehe) you will never want to go back :Rockon:
 
and then...........

the next step, is start SPENDING MONEY!

Some pinhead with a RMK900 or a King Cat will show up, so you gotta......
buy lightweight parts, a longer track, better skid, one piece kickup tunnel, drop and roll, titanium springs, shafts and bolts, fibreglass hood, then an even longer track, pipes, then powdercoat them, Boss seat, light trailing arms, lose the lights and guages, peak heads, roller clutch, maybe get a digital guage like avenger 3, bore it, stroke it, NOS, turbo or supercharger, lighter wider skis, go on a diet, and finally remortgage the house so you can go buy a RMK900 or King cat to keep up with the buddies, and start again. :moon:
 
We've ridden in the mountains for years, but I hate to admit it, we didn't start to really improve untill our 16year old kids started riding. They watch these extreme climbing videos. They watch them over and over and over, and they really pick the stuff up. My 100lb son left hand side-hill his 2002 summit 800 (151in) across a steep slope, and then carve a left hand turn, right up the hill through the trees. They learn to study hills, develop lines, and they develop the acrobatics to make the sled go where they want. We took notice and started seriously working on the skills. A fifty mile day in the mountains will leave you physically exhausted. Getting my sled down to 540 dry has helped alot. Unfortunately my kid just took 30 off his smoker.
 

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We've ridden in the mountains for years, but I hate to admit it, we didn't start to really improve untill our 16year old kids started riding. They watch these extreme climbing videos. They watch them over and over and over, and they really pick the stuff up. My 100lb son left hand side-hill his 2002 summit 800 (151in) across a steep slope, and then carves a left hand turn, right up the hill through the trees. They learn to study hills, develop lines, and they develop the acrobatics and balance to make the sled go where they want. We took notice and started seriously working on the skills. A fifty mile day in the mountains will leave you soaked in sweat and physically exhausted. A lightenned RX1 will go with the best of them. Unfortunately my kid just took 30lbs off his two-smoker.
 
Learnng to ride in mtns

While you are learning to ride the mtns, pick up the instument panel pieces, carry some super glue, duck tape and go to work. I'm a pretty good mtn rider and I sill get in over my head once in a while. Mine has been put back together three times, it is not pretty but still holds everything in place. I carry all new inst. panel parts in my truck just in case I really wipe them out. Raiseing your bars 2-3" will help protect inst. panel. I wont give you any advice on how to learn to ride the mtns, that has been covered really well already.
 
Here's the photo of my 100lb kid on a 530 lb sled. A 200lb man has no excuse on an RX1.
 

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Another thing to do to help improve mountain riding or even ditch banging is; get them bars up to about shoulder level when your siting on the seat and put some hand guards on if need be. This gives you alot more leverage to throw the sled around and make it do what you want. Look at a snowcross sled they have the bars set high also.

My wife didn't like my sled until last year until I put the pivot riser and got the bars up and forward giving her more leverage for riding. It is still a little too heavy for her but at least she will ride it if offered the chance.

Also the wider front end/ stiffer linkage makes it a little tougher to side hill on this sled. I have once again pulled my anti-sway bar now that the wife has her own sled and I will be riding solo 100% of the time. It was just too tough to trail ride it two up with gear without it.
 
THANKS for all the GREAT INFO..GUYS!!! AWSOME'


I really like the remark about picking the nose!! LOL

Brian
 
Kbx, I saw the ape ish comment... Grrrr LOL Maybe if I get new ink cartridges I can print this page up for anyone who asks me, as this is well described for a newbie
 
heh everytime I go to the mountains, and see the apes on the trail I think of you buddy, when are you going to go riding with us?
 


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