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I definately agree with he guys saying keeping it local. However, I would be up front with him and tell him about your quandry - carefully! Just explain to him that you would love to buy the sled from him, and if there is anything he can do to help your decision. Many dealers will be able to get you a better deal on accessories or clothing etc., than they can on the sled. I don't really know how much actual markup is on a sled, but I'm sure the more reputable dealers have something more to offer in addition to the sled purchase.
Ask him if he will throw in a matching helmet or someting, just to help you fell like you are getting a better deal. I'm sure he would be happy to do that.
Knock on wood, though since you are looking at buying a Yammy, I would hope you won't have any major warraty issues. Anything that I had trouble with on my sled wasn't serious enough to warrant sidelining the sled, and taking it in immediately. Everything I had waited until the end of season, and was done with annual maintainence.
Nate
Ask him if he will throw in a matching helmet or someting, just to help you fell like you are getting a better deal. I'm sure he would be happy to do that.
Knock on wood, though since you are looking at buying a Yammy, I would hope you won't have any major warraty issues. Anything that I had trouble with on my sled wasn't serious enough to warrant sidelining the sled, and taking it in immediately. Everything I had waited until the end of season, and was done with annual maintainence.
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CaptianC
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A lot of good points here. I feel for the guys that need to keep their doors open, tough deal all around. Definitely want to support the folks that take care of you day in and out. In my case, I haven’t met either yet, and only rode local to one once. In my humble opinion, it shouldn't be that you feel shameful trying to save spending $6,7,or 8 hundred more and be in the sport. My loyalty is at home with my two boys that I bought sleds for this year, 2007 polaris 120 and 2003 Arctic Cat 370z. Wish Yami made sleds for them.
All in all, I doubt this would be a conversation if we were buying a computer or truck, but understand the difference with sledding. We do own loyalty to the dealers, but how much? I will call the other dealer and see if there is anything he can do to help bridge the gap, but if not will appreciate his effort, and hope he understands. If not, he wouldn’t be a dealer to do business with for me.
All in all, I doubt this would be a conversation if we were buying a computer or truck, but understand the difference with sledding. We do own loyalty to the dealers, but how much? I will call the other dealer and see if there is anything he can do to help bridge the gap, but if not will appreciate his effort, and hope he understands. If not, he wouldn’t be a dealer to do business with for me.
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Perfect example u bought from a dealer u asked me about and i warned u. Then he tells u he has parts in stock and doesnt u drive a hour with your boys and he dont give u the time of day when u get there. That should have been a learning experience.Research ur dealer buy froma well known repoutablr dealer IMO. Is all i wanted u to see
Coondog2707
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I had to roll the dice on this one too.
I like to deal locally whenever possible, too. But sometimes you gotta have what you gotta have.
I have 2 Yammie dealers, one is 15 miles away, one is over 30. I was pricing Apex GTs. The one that was closer didnt have a GT, but gave me a great price on an RTX. The other had the GT but wanted stupid money for it. I found a 3rd dealer that had the price I wanted to pay for the GT, but he was 2 hours away. He was $1,400 less than dealer#2, and when I told dealer #2 that he scoffed. I would have bought from him if he was even close, and I told him that. He would not budge.
So it came down to dealer#1, 15 miles away with the sled I really didnt want, but at a very good price, or dealer #3, 120 miles away on the sled I really wanted at the price I wanted to pay. I had to think about it hard for almost a week, with good points either way. In the end, I want what I want, and I dont see any point in spending $1400 more to get it. I bought the GT at dealer#3.
Now having done that I also had to accept the fact that if I had problems with it I may have painted myself into a corner and be forced to make a long trek for warranty or service, but I can make a lot of trips with the $1400 I saved. The way I looked at it, It was as if I bought it at the local dealer and got free fuel for the year. Would that be a deal? You bet.
It can all be second guessed, and who knows if I did the right thing. Only time will tell!
I like to deal locally whenever possible, too. But sometimes you gotta have what you gotta have.
I have 2 Yammie dealers, one is 15 miles away, one is over 30. I was pricing Apex GTs. The one that was closer didnt have a GT, but gave me a great price on an RTX. The other had the GT but wanted stupid money for it. I found a 3rd dealer that had the price I wanted to pay for the GT, but he was 2 hours away. He was $1,400 less than dealer#2, and when I told dealer #2 that he scoffed. I would have bought from him if he was even close, and I told him that. He would not budge.
So it came down to dealer#1, 15 miles away with the sled I really didnt want, but at a very good price, or dealer #3, 120 miles away on the sled I really wanted at the price I wanted to pay. I had to think about it hard for almost a week, with good points either way. In the end, I want what I want, and I dont see any point in spending $1400 more to get it. I bought the GT at dealer#3.
Now having done that I also had to accept the fact that if I had problems with it I may have painted myself into a corner and be forced to make a long trek for warranty or service, but I can make a lot of trips with the $1400 I saved. The way I looked at it, It was as if I bought it at the local dealer and got free fuel for the year. Would that be a deal? You bet.
It can all be second guessed, and who knows if I did the right thing. Only time will tell!
Wartsnuff
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Hello,
well my dealership is awesome. i would hate to have to consider buying my sled anywhere else.
and they gave me the best price on my sled when i bought, or at least very close.. i remember it was not enough to even bother!
cheers
Dave
well my dealership is awesome. i would hate to have to consider buying my sled anywhere else.
and they gave me the best price on my sled when i bought, or at least very close.. i remember it was not enough to even bother!
cheers
Dave
sawsalesman
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I just read all these posts and have no idea where Daveyboy is coming from. Where did the State of NY come in to play? By the way guys, I hope you all understand that warranty work is paid by Yamaha to the dealers so this is money in their pocket. Do you really think that shops care where the machine was purchased. If they make money doing warranty work and you continue to bring your machine to them for regular service I think you will see that the any dealership will appreciate you. You have got to build that relationship. You guys all make it sound like if you buy a Yamaha in Nebraska and you live in NH that you better bring it back to Nebraska for warranty work. Get real!
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sawsalesman said:I just read all these posts and have no idea where Daveyboy is coming from. Where did the State of NY come in to play? By the way guys, I hope you all understand that warranty work is paid by Yamaha to the dealers so this is money in their pocket. Do you really think that shops care where the machine was purchased. If they make money doing warranty work and you continue to bring your machine to them for regular service I think you will see that the any dealership will appreciate you. You have got to build that relationship. You guys all make it sound like if you buy a Yamaha in Nebraska and you live in NH that you better bring it back to Nebraska for warranty work. Get real!
Sawsalesman, you just nailed the critical point of this whole thing. It validated and vindicated my position on the matter. Thank you.
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New York is where he is buying sled for the savings! Sorry u couldnt read between the lines.And as stated before he breaks down in maine or NH and wants sled fixed asap and the dealer has another sled from a customer who bought sled from them,they are most likely going to do that sled that was bought from them.Opinions vary, Everyone is entitled to theres was just trying to help a friend.A attack is way more sled than a newbie needs IMO.Good luck to him I am done with him and this thread
sawsalesman
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Well you didn't say anything about NY. Let me tell you this. If you are broken down anywhere you are going to be at the mercy of that local dealer. I am done with this thread too!
Coondog2707
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Does everyone have snow to ride on? Cause everyone sure seems touchy!!! A good rip will mello everyone right out. It always does me!!!
Weather or not the dealers are getting paid by Yamaha for warranty work or not, weather its right or wrong, believe me, some dealers ARE resentful when you bring in a sled you priced there, but didn't buy there. Makes them a little less loyal to you, since you weren't so loyal to them. Its a two way street. I agree it shouldn't make a difference, but in the real world it often does........
Kinda like bringing your own hamburger to McDonalds and asking them to cook it. After all, its all just ground beef. Why shouldn't they just make a buck cookin it for ya??
Weather or not the dealers are getting paid by Yamaha for warranty work or not, weather its right or wrong, believe me, some dealers ARE resentful when you bring in a sled you priced there, but didn't buy there. Makes them a little less loyal to you, since you weren't so loyal to them. Its a two way street. I agree it shouldn't make a difference, but in the real world it often does........
Kinda like bringing your own hamburger to McDonalds and asking them to cook it. After all, its all just ground beef. Why shouldn't they just make a buck cookin it for ya??
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HONDAFIXER
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Stopped at a Yamaha dealer on my way up north to pick up a new Attack GT for my cousin two weeks ago. While in there I was joking to the salesman about a certain dealer in NY who advertises sleds real cheap. Had no intention of buying a sled this year. Said that If he could come close to that price and save me a trip to NY I would by the sled. 45 minutes later the Fusion 600 was off the trailer and an Apex GT was loaded. Was not as cheap as the NY dealer but close enough to make the deal.
Bodacious
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I usually shop around a little find a good price and then if my local shop can come within $300.00 of it I'll buy from them. If they stay friendly and helpful I try to buy my Yamaha accessories and parts from them too. Local is always easiest if you are treated fairly and with respect!
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I shopped for price before buying my rtx. I told my local dealer I could get it 700 cheaper elsewhere, but didn't want them to lose the business. They came down 500 and I bought from them. The best part is when I go looking at windshields or clothing and I ask them the difference between two different items, they usually order both, let me take the one I like, and put the other out for sale. This is also a good point, a larger dealer with more inventory can afford to do these extra things! Whom ever you go with, try to build a relationship. Chances are you will buy something new from them again. Get to know your dealer on a first name basis. Just stop in and shoot the bull about what's new etc. This is easier if they are close. It may sound like a little work, but it's worth it in the long run.
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supercat said:I shopped for price before buying my rtx. I told my local dealer I could get it 700 cheaper elsewhere, but didn't want them to lose the business. They came down 500 and I bought from them. The best part is when I go looking at windshields or clothing and I ask them the difference between two different items, they usually order both, let me take the one I like, and put the other out for sale. This is also a good point, a larger dealer with more inventory can afford to do these extra things! Whom ever you go with, try to build a relationship. Chances are you will buy something new from them again. Get to know your dealer on a first name basis. Just stop in and shoot the bull about what's new etc. This is easier if they are close. It may sound like a little work, but it's worth it in the long run.
Very well said.
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